Apple has released a guided tour of Vision Pro on its website that walks through a bunch of its features. Whether or not you’re planning to purchase Apple Vision Pro, this video is worth taking the time to watch.

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    8 months ago

    Ended up curious enough to buy one so hoping it turns out well. My brain works very spatially but the HoloLens and Quest Pro felt underwhelming. Especially with hand gesture tracking.

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      8 months ago

      Cool! Maybe report back someday with a review post?

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        8 months ago

        I might! Though Lemmy is unfortunately pretty frustrating when it comes to technology that isn’t FOSS/Linux (I use arch btw). Especially towards Apple users to a point where I wouldn’t feel super comfortable making a standalone post. I’d really rather not invite potential harassment and barrages of downvotes. Nor folks generally shitting on me for ‘wasting my money’, being ‘rich’, or a ‘fanboy’ because I bought one. Not worth the effort.

        If I feel like writing one it’ll probably be a comment under a post in this community :)

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          8 months ago

          Proud Apple fanboy here, and I’d love to read your review!

          Screw the haters, you like what you like, and what works for you. I’d love to hear from the prospective of an Arch user.

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          8 months ago

          Hmm I could definitely see the harassment being a possibility. You’re right that there is a pretty specific user demographic here 😮‍💨 Looking forward to it, when you do! 😉

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      8 months ago

      I’m kinda confused so I want to see someone who is enough in the loop about the apple vr to explain this to me. If all it can do is watch movies and play 2d games and doesn’t have enough battery life to watch a movie, why???

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        8 months ago

        Well, it’s not just for movies and 2d games. For me, the appeal is:

        • Using multiple windows of apps at a time in a floating space
        • Passthrough vision for AR
        • 3d movies and general big screen movie experiences
        • Extending my MacBook’s displays and working with the computer just by looking at it
        • The eye tracking and gesture control seem really well done. I expect Apple of all companies to really nail that experience.
        • I’m kind of excited to try out spacial videos that I took on my phone while in Istanbul.

        Battery life is indeed a downside, but Apple basically crammed an entire MacBook in this damn thing. That alone is really impressive. I’ll likely be using it near an outlet or USB C hub anyways since I’ve got them built into my couch, on my desk, and by my bed. Plus planes have outlets. For reference, I’d really only get 2-3 hours on my Quest 2.

        As for games, not a clue what the gaming experience is gonna be like. There may very well be a possibility that 3d games are built for the headset at some point. But I’d rather use one that connects to my gaming computer like a Valve Index or my PSVR headset with my PS5. Would love to see PS Remote Play and gaming controller support on it though.

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          8 months ago

          What would you be doing in ar with it? It just seems so awkward for any type of interaction and not really anything fun or worth anyone’s time or especially money. They already said it wouldn’t be 3d movies, except for very few, they would stay 2d. Also it would literally be cheaper to get other monitors.

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            8 months ago

            AR pass-through is helpful for organizing stuff around me and still being aware of where I am. It’s definitely more appealing to me from a productivity and doing things I’d casually do on my phone/computer. Why? Dunno, I just wanted to see what using AR for that will be like.

            Movies aren’t the highest priority for me tbh. Like I might use it for that once in a while but I prefer watching them with my partner or friends. It’ll be handy for flying though.

            Sure, you’re right that monitors are cheaper and I do have monitors at my desk. Can’t take monitors with me as easily as I can a headset. Like if I wanted to work while riding with co-workers for an on-site, at a cafe, a hotel room, or from bed or the couch. I’ll look like a complete dork if I use it in public, but I would look like an even bigger dork when I take up an entire coffee table with two portable monitors.

            While the Vision Pro is appealing to me, I can absolutely see why most people wouldn’t buy one. It’s certainly not a device for everyone and is unbelievably expensive. Worst-case, I end up not liking the headset and I sell it to someone for around what I paid for it.

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              8 months ago

              Alright I guess but does that really justify $3500 (and more I’m guessing since it’s Apple you will need to buy something else, for example the $60 prescription lenses on quest 2 are more than $800 for the vision pro)

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                It’s def expensive and overkill for a headset. I’m just enough of a tech enthusiast that if something really seems exciting to me I’m willing to set aside a commission check for it. It helps that I did really well this year and got promoted too lol.

                Yeah if you wear glasses instead of contacts you have to get corrective lenses for the Vision Pro. The preorder page said they were $149 for prescription lenses, but I got LASIK so don’t need em.

                It really does have the “Apple tax”, especially with the storage price markups (my biggest complaint with any Apple product). But AppleCare for it is like $400 which is way more than I expected, so I’m thinking they might be selling them at a much lower profit margin than normal or even at a loss on the base tier. It’s like $100 for MacBooks usually.

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                  8 months ago

                  I hope it doesn’t become like iPhone where they are used by everybody in America and they still don’t have much of anything over competitors like Android.

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          8 months ago

          I’m hoping we can get emulators to run on it to play Nintendo 3DS games.

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                8 months ago

                The topic in this thread was about watching a movie with a small battery. My answer was you don’t need to use the battery when sitting down. Simple as that.

                And no, the „best“ experience is not walking around, it’s whatever you do with it. Sitting down, walking around, lying in bed, it doesn’t matter. You would know that if you watched the video.

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      8 months ago

      Can I ask why you think hand tracking in Quest is underwhelming? For the Quest 3, it’s fucking incredible, it recognises individual digits and gestures in all lighting and scenarios I’ve tested. Which generation did you use?

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        8 months ago

        I used the Quest Pro when my friend had a set while they were working for Meta. I’ve also have the Quest 2. The pro didn’t seem to pick up on gestures well and I needed to be more mindful of where my hands were. The Quest 2 was just janky. I do want to test the Quest 3 out though, as I’ve heard they made substantial improvements in that front.

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    8 months ago

    The FaceTime Persona is probably the strangest part of the demo, but everything else looks very intuitive. Can’t wait to try out a demo in-store someday.

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      8 months ago

      Yeh, but I guess it is a reasonable solution to a situation where you are chatting to someone without a camera pointing at their full face and who is wearing goggles

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    8 months ago

    What does “Supports multiple playback at 24fps and 30fps for judder‑free video” mean? I thought there was mention of the Avatar 3D demo playing at a higher frame rate.

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      8 months ago

      They match the refresh rate to the video so that the video frame rate is divisible. Supposedly there is a special mode where the displays run at 96hz instead of the normal 90hz when playing back 24fps video.

      30fps works fine at 90hz.

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        8 months ago

        Ocing the display to 96hz for 24fps video seems silly, you can interpolate frames to suit any refresh rate with no loss in quality these days.