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  • Sirota:

    Liberals are offended by Trump’s lack of manners in pulling off extreme versions of what their own party icons have done, but many Americans seem to cherish the Joker-like quality of Trump’s antics. They seem to appreciate that — unlike establishment Democrats — Trump at least doesn’t use a dog whistle to trick anyone. He uses a bullhorn to proudly broadcast and brag about his malfeasance — all while offering a captivating and distracting culture war along the way.

    Swinging these disillusioned voters away from the authoritarian right is an imperative — not for saving the Democrats, but for saving the country. And yet right now, these voters are being offered only conservatives’ MAGA circus or liberals’ Davos cocktail party.

    We literally just tried avoiding the culture war to convert conservatives and the centrists and Sirota won’t let that stop them from saying the problem is all that wokeness. Fuck them all.

    That’s not how I read that in the context of the rest of the article. Maybe it’s me, but I feel like you try to fit this article into the “centrists” framing when it’s not about that. The article is about offering alternative to Trump fake anti-establishment talk with a real policy based anti-establishemnt movement. It’s promoting everything that corporate (aka centrists) Democrats doesn’t stand for.


  • Now you’re saying it’s about not having platitudes as the platform, not just not saying them? And this somehow is not engaging in the culture war?

    I’m consistent. “<…> offer useless platitudes of “I support x minority” and then do nothing to help them <…>” is not the same as saying you support someone for the sake of saying to gain political capital. And it’s not his platform. His platform is about working people. It might have some policies that are targeted, but the goals are the same. To help all working people to have a better life.

    There is a good quote from Sanders in this article that highlights this.

    “You get to what we call identity politics (which is) you’re Black you’re wonderful, you’re tremendous, you’re gay you’re the greatest human being on Earth, rather than saying what do you stand for?” Sanders said recently. “You’re gay, that’s fine, who cares. . . . The issue is, what you stand for, which gets you back (to) class politics in the sense of which side are you on? Are you going to stand with working families?”


    Sirota doesn’t seem to want either, because we have to peel off MAGA voters and Trump likes to play to racism.

    Kamala Harris tried to peel of MAGA voters, how did that worked out for her? His whole post is about the focus being around anti-capitalism and elite establishment which resonates to more people than there are in the MAGA cult. You can’t reach cult members, but you have millions upon millions of people that can be easily reached with good working class focused platform.



  • That’s not how I read it. I read it as don’t offer useless platitudes of “I support x minority” and then do nothing to help them, but instead improve their and everyone else material living conditions.

    Look at the most popular politician in the US Bernie Sanders. He doesn’t focus on platitudes instead offers real solutions to working class people problems and he is supported by all minority groups because of it. That doesn’t mean he won’t defend those minorities when they are atacked, but he doesn’t make it his platform.










  • I’m aware. 3rd parties are not viable in the US. I think the only way to change that is to encourage local already established leaders be it advocates, activists, reporters, teachers or other working class people with a fundamental core of values to run for political office under Democratic banner, but who are also willing to criticize and call out corporate slaves of the party. This upcoming election cycle there seems to be a lot of new new faces primaring useless corporate goons that are raising huge amounts of money with a message of working class first.