What consumer is asking for this?
Microsoft wants to move me fully to the Linux
I assume it is not a full transition to cloud, instead they are adding ‘Cloud Computing to Windows’ and integrating with system.
Wow great More always online drm in windows
Recently I moved to a Fedora distro called Nobara for my gaming rig. Microsoft has been working hard to force me out for years. When I have to make custom installers, and run scripts to control updates and telemetry, you’re not being a very inviting OS.
I’ve just been testing it out, but tried installing a couple of games through lutris and had no luck with it. Tinkering isn’t an issue, but the system hung so bad when starting Arcanum I had to reboot to get back in. Even after killing wine, the game and gnome-shell I still couldn’t interact with the gui at all.
I would switch os if roblox didn’t decide to screw linux users with the byfron anti cheat
2023, the year that big tech shot it self in the face, continues.
I hope that gaming on linux then is as seamless as it is on windows today. Because the rest of the things that I do with my PC are already equal, but gaming is the big reason I still use windows.
I’ve been trying out linux gaming annually. With the steam deck out proton has become super good. I think my gaming pc is finally going to stay on linux this time around. Oh anti cheat has support now too. Just got done playing a few rounds of halo mcc.
Don’t know what games you are playing, but I game myself quite heavily and doing it exclusively on Linux. Steam proton has changed a lot of things for Linux gaming. Only issues are with anti cheat. So if you are playing single player you are good to go. Multiplayer can be difficult, it depends on the game. I have 200 hours on Apex in Linux.
I switched back to windows for gaming because NVidia drivers are terrible and I had so many issues with many game that no amount of googling and debugging could fix. Linux also doesn’t have HDR support yet (it’s in the work though)
I really prefer Linux, but I had so many non trivial issues. I know this isn’t the same experience for everyone, but considering I do gaming 95% of the time on my personal PC, I got fed up of hitting a wall for the games I wanted to play.
I will buy an AMD gpu when I will switch so that hopefully the open sourced drivers will fix my issues.
I still daily drive linux for work though.
Yeah, anti-cheat/multiplayer is the biggest hurdle to go for linux gaming, as well as VR. They’re the two things that continue to hold my kids in Windows, for now. I hope that someday they’re remedied and I can move them into Linux systems for gaming, but for now, it’s just not realistic, sadly.
A lot of anticheat actually works pretty well now, it’s super cool how much Valve continues to push Proton development forward
Steam has that on lock right now. No, it’s not perfect, but for most games it’s pretty much seamless.
There are some cases where Windows is better - mod management tools are better on Windows, for instance. Anything you have outside of Steam might need another app like Lutris (or Heroic, which is great for GOG btw). And that’s not mentioning malware under the guise of “anti-cheat”.
Imagine being able to use your computer 355 days of the year (looking at you, Office 365 and Teams) :)
@dvdnet90 I’m leaving windows as soon as support is dropped for windows 10
Well, that should be interesting for businesses. I wonder how things will play out with HIPPA, GPDR, and such.
Redmond locking out consumers with shitty/metered Internet connections? What a wonderful idea.
Asking people to move to a subscription model will also be appreciated, I’m sure.
I’m glad Linux gaming is getting better so I can make the switch if I have too. That being said I find Windows copilot intriguing. An AI assistant built into the operating system could be very useful. It’s good to have options.
I guess it’s about time to look into Linux again. I’ve run it on and off since the late 90’s, but always end up back on Windows because of games.
Almost all games are supported on Linux, with the exception of games with invasive anti-cheat, but those rootkits shouldn’t be installed on Windows either.
I wonder if they can be exploted by someone attacking your computer. How much do anti-cheat developers care about user’s security?
Not at all!
So if I don’t have an internet connection, I can’t even boot my computer?
Big “you’ll own nothing and be happy” energy.
As long as it’s opt-in then there are also huge benefits. Updates would happen organically, less issues with driver support for your specific manufacturer, laptops would become even thinner and lighter, you could run windows on virtually (lol) anything and they could even sell tiered hardware so that you could game in the cloud (this tech is getting better and better). I love my Shadow PC for gaming and other nonsense, being able to play modern games with maxed out graphics on my fan-less MacBook Air is a dream.
I also work in IT and there are so many bullshit companies offering cloud based services that run specific software in the cloud, RightNetworks being one of them, but one thing I like is it’s almost completely hands off on my end and if the whole OS is running in the cloud then it would be cake for provisioning and remote management.
So if I don’t have an internet connection, I can’t even boot my computer?
While I personally hate this Idea as well, I have to admit, that there could certainly be rather significant upsides for users.
Cheap Chromebook-like Laptops, but can run Video Games, Video Encodings, Finite Element Analyses, Computational Fluid Dynamics etc no problem. “Your” PC can be accessible from your phone in a Pinch.
You open a weird Link and got a Virus? No problem, just roll back your “PC”
Your home floods/burns down? All the images from your children are still safe.
Never being bothered by needing a hardware upgrade.Can’t afford your monthly windows cloud bill? Lose access to all your data, important files, pictures of your kids, music library.
Fuck everything about that with a rusty spoon.
Being able to run video games or other hardware intensive process would either require pricey hardware or they’d be streamed from a cloud service (which comes with a whole other bundle of issues to consider) as that computational power has to come from something physical somewhere. Offloading your OS to the cloud wouldn’t affect that. PCs can already be accessed by phone if you have the right set up (dedicated IP hosting and a VPN) As for saving data in case of emergencies, we already have cloud based storage solutions that wouldn’t be impacted by cloud based OS.
There is 0 reason to use a cloud based OS other than making sure people are tied to your service for the life of their computer. This feels like a solution to a problem no one has.
I believe the poster above you was referring to full cloud-hosted Virtual Desktops, not just cloud-hosted OS. The former would make a lot more sense and would indeed allow for need-based scaling of resources without any expensive local hardware. I think this is the future of the common man’s computing experience - a nice monitor that also functions as a thin client to access web-hosted virtual desktops.
It’s the Adobe model though. It’ll seem attractive to start with compared to upgrading every few years, but soon enough you’ll be paying out the nose for it.
Yup, that was what I understood it to be, I’ll admit to just skimming the article, but it seemed rather directly that?
Windows 365 is a service that streams a full version of Windows to devices. So far, it’s been limited to just commercial customers, but Microsoft has been deeply integrating it into Windows 11 already. A future update will include Windows 365 Boot, which will enable Windows 11 devices to log directly in to a Cloud PC instance at boot instead of the local version of Windows. Windows 365 Switch is also built into Windows 11 to integrate Cloud PCs into the Task View (virtual desktops) feature.
All for the low low price of…your freedom, privacy, security, and consumer rights.
MS can kiss my piss.
While I could understand this approach for big enterprises, to avoid the hassle of managing thousands of employees PCs, I don’t understand it for home use.
I mean, people who want a PC at home, want it for the multi-purpose capabilities and power in gaming, not to mention full control over it.
Those who only use the PC for email, browsing the internet and watching videos, are better served with a tablet, they’re so powerful nowadays that you don’t really need a PC for those simple tasks, students would be better off with chromebooks, they’re even cheaper, a few types of jobs, like professional graphics for example, are better done with a MAC, and probably other things I’m forgetting right now.
I fully switched to Linux years ago, but if I were still using Windows, I know for sure I’d be furious if my computer stopped working only because the internet went down or MS servers had some downtime.
I’d love to know what they know that I don’t to be so sure this won’t blow up in their faces.
I only use windows if i have to in my workplace and it always sucks. It’s the only thing on my workflow that slows me down or drives me crazy
