The Republican presidential candidate ridiculously claimed that Biden is “trying to hold” Bibi back, as the Israeli prime minister continued to ruthlessly bomb Lebanon and Gaza.

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/45237868

“He’s doing a good job,” Trump saidabout the Israeli leader. “Biden is trying to hold him back, just so you understand, Biden is more superior to the VP. He’s trying to hold him back, and he probably should be doing the opposite, actually. I’m glad that Netanyahu decided to do what he had to do, but it’s moving along pretty good.”

    • Susaga@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      366·
      2 months ago

      The only thing they said is “Trump is worse than Biden.” You yourself agreed with that. So why are you demonising them for things they haven’t said?

      Honestly, the fact you’re reacting so strongly to a post calling Trump worse than Biden by saying “liberals coming here to do their pissy whataboutism” makes you sound like a Trump supporter trying to take shots at the other side without even realising that Biden ISN’T EVEN RUNNING.

      • EndlessApollo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1229·
        2 months ago

        You’re totally right, nothing sounds more like support for “finish the job” trump than saying our president shouldn’t turn Palestinian children into skeletons

        Ig that commenter wasn’t really doing whataboutism, the article wasn’t about people protesting the genocide, sorry to that person for any aggression. Fuck tons of liberals (at least the ones I’ve seen commenting on .world) have the idea that wanting Biden to stop sending weapons that are being used for war crimes means you want trump in office, I shouldn’t have assumed that of them

        Free palestine. 🇵🇸

        • EndlessApollo@lemmy.worldEnglish
          930·
          2 months ago

          Also just unbelievably fucking tired of liberals strawmanning leftists like op. No, nobody thinks trump would be better for Palestinians besides people who don’t follow American politics and don’t vote. No, protesting the genocide in Gaza doesn’t make you a russian asset. Yes, I’m voting Harris. Seeing liberals project their lack of shits given about genocide onto leftists really pisses me off, especially with the classic liberal “holier than thou” smug superiority complex they almost always have

          Free palestine. 🇵🇸

          • Susaga@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            324·
            2 months ago

            Once again, what the fuck conversation are you responding to? If you don’t disagree with what they said, that Trump is worse than Biden, why are you spending so much time arguing with them? Please note that they never said Biden was GOOD, just that Trump was WORSE.

            nobody thinks trump would be better for Palestinians besides people who … don’t vote

            So, aside from the people who think that, nobody thinks that? Helpful. Do you think they’re maybe not voting because they think Trump can’t be any worse?

            Please fuck off with your strawmanning OP into a person saying things they definitely didn’t say. Fuck off with your false assertion that we criticise Trump because we love Biden. Fuck off with your “I’m not a russian spy” assertion when nobody ever called you one. Fuck off with your constant smug spamming of the Palestinian flag as if we aren’t on the same fucking side.

            You’re not just preaching to the choir, you’re calling the choir blasphemers and heretics. If you’re going to respond to someone, please respond to what they said, and not what you think they could have said.

            • Klear@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              153·
              2 months ago

              He’s a Trump supporter arguing in bad faith, stop engaging with him, it won’t lead to anything good.

            • Maalus@lemmy.worldEnglish
              39·
              2 months ago

              The conversation anyone who is pro Palestine is having 24/7. From Kamala’s “I’m speaking”, through actions of Biden and press releases by Trump. You are reacting as if none of what OP said ever happens. You are acting like “Trump is worse!” Isn’t immediately followed by “vote Kamala” as if she somehow will solve the problem. Just because one candidate sucks, doesn’t mean you can’t criticize the other for doing the same shit. You keep going “fuck off with X” (which is a shitty thing to do btw) and basically telling them to shut up, stay silent and not bother you / not speak out. You are the exact problem OP is responding to. And then you say “I’m on your side”.

              • Susaga@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                133·
                2 months ago

                Cool. It’s not happening here. You’re having this conversation non-stop because you keep forcing this conversation when nobody’s even talking. Why does the statement “Trump is bad” have to be followed by “Biden is also bad”? Those are two different conversations.

                Will voting Harris fix the problem? Probably not. Will not voting Harris make things worse? Yes. Do you want things to be worse, or do you want to vote Harris? Just because she’s imperfect doesn’t change that.

                It’s a shitty thing to strawman someone to condemn them for things they haven’t said. Telling someone not to do a shit thing is not a shit thing.

                I am pro-Palestine, anti-Trump, and I think American politics is too right-wing overall. I just don’t think “Biden is causing a genocide” is a good response to “Trump would actively make things worse.”

            • EndlessApollo@lemmy.worldEnglish
              216·
              2 months ago

              Most of the second reply wasn’t even aimed at op tf are you getting mad about xD it was just a general complaint about shitlibs who strawman leftists, and that’s what op did. They didn’t do all the shit I complained about, but they act like there’s this huge contingent of people voting for trump bc biden is bad about palestine without actually showing it at all, because it’s not a thing. Again, tired of people like you and op acting like anyone not 100% in line with democrats 100% of the time is a nazi, especially when that accusation is hurled at people ACTIVELY PROTESTING GENOCIDE

              (edited to add a little bit)

              Free Palestine. 🇵🇸

              • Susaga@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                153·
                2 months ago

                Please respond to what people say and not what they could have said. Don’t respond to phantoms who aren’t in the room.

                You don’t need to think someone is perfect to think someone else is worse. There are lots of people so disillusioned by the left that they don’t vote at all, thus allowing the right to come into power, and they need a wake-up call that, yes, things can get worse.

                You are protesting genocide in a pro-Palestinian forum, directed as people who are also pro-Palestine, responding to someone saying “let’s not make Palestine worse.” You’re not a nazi (and I never said you were), you’re just useless.

                • EndlessApollo@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  218·
                  2 months ago

                  You’re whining about absolutely nothing my guy. I already apologized for putting words in op’s mouth, and for that, I got you putting words in my mouth. At this point all I’m saying about op is they’re strawmanning leftists, which is true. Please, fuck off with your strawman bullshit :3

                  From the river to the sea 🇵🇸

            • EndlessApollo@lemmy.worldEnglish
              218·
              2 months ago

              Yea no shit op didn’t say pro palestinian protestors are nazis, maybe you could pick up from context that that specific line wasn’t about them rather than trying to spin my words into something they’re not? Thank you :3

              Free Palestine. 🇵🇸

              • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
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                2 months ago

                What the heck is the point here? You figuratively walked in the room, shit on the floor, then yelled at everyone asking why it smells