I know I’ve seen this on several websites today. What was everyone expecting? The only think I can think of is the old trope that Republican administrations are better for the economy. I have coworkers who were basically expecting miracles once Trump got into office. Things are probably gonna be bad.
The ones who voted for Trump? To get their pony. And they’ll keep shutting their eyes and plugging their ears waiting for their pony until they starve to death because everyone else has already emptied the dumpster of food.
Every Republican presidential term in my lifetime has had a recession start. None of the Democratic ones have…
Regan; one started each term. First Bush had one in his term. Clinton had none in his 2 terms. Second Bush had a HUGE one each time (dot com and great recession). Obama had none in his 2 terms. trump had one in his first term (triggered by covid & shutdowns; which his (in)actions intensified…). Biden didn’t have one (but; just barely… and only by the official definition [NBER]; he did have two negative real GDP quarters, so one could argue this point). Now we’re starting trump’s second term, so we’ll see (it’s pretty clear we’ll have a recession within 2 years).
This isn’t really debatable unless you ignore the evidence. Stock market and real GDP growth are overall way higher under Democrat presidents. One link for reference (but many more are available): https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11127-021-00912-y
The 2008 Crash was the direct result of Clinton’s repealing of the Glass-Steagal Act (with the full support from the Republicans, so I’m not actually excusing them).
In the process of pointing out just how bad the Republicans are for the Economy, let’s not excuse the Democrats so much that it turns into whitewashing.
Clinton repealed the Glass-Steagal Act, inflating a massive bubble (especially in Finance) which blew up in 2008.
If you’re going to laud him for the positive effects of the bubble he inflated, then it’s only fair to criticize him for the ultimate result of his bubble-pumping policies, which wiped out all the gains from the bubble.
Historically the US economy generally performs better under Democratic administrations than Republican ones. I’ve read several articles and studies that show this. I’m on mobile and don’t have the time to find them However polls show that Americans consistently have the opinion that Republican admins are better on economics. And this despite no matter how much evidence os presented.
You are not wrong, I don’t know where the other poster got their information, but Republicans almost always destroy the economy and the Democrats (kind of) fix it just in time to be blamed for the economy being bad.
The “trope” is public perception, not actual historical pattern. Every time a Republican president gets elected the exit polls are full of “economic concerns.” What that actually means is left to interpretation but so it goes.
Inflation has generally dropped significantly in most developed countries and is mostly tied to post-pandemic effects and the war in Ukraine. So if you ignore the debilitating influence of Trump, you would expect inflation to continue to drop in the US too.
The 3% rate isn’t actually all that high currently, but you’d expect it to trend up again due to tariffs, both from the actual effects and as an excuse for companies to raise prices.
Or Trump could cause a serious recession/depression, in which case inflation will drop (but you won’t be able to buy anything anyway, since you’ll have lost your job).
You are correct. And if Biden or Harris had been elected and we could he reasonably assured we’d continue on a stable path we’d probably be in a different situation. But Trump and team are a different story.
I know I’ve seen this on several websites today. What was everyone expecting? The only think I can think of is the old trope that Republican administrations are better for the economy. I have coworkers who were basically expecting miracles once Trump got into office. Things are probably gonna be bad.
The ones who voted for Trump? To get their pony. And they’ll keep shutting their eyes and plugging their ears waiting for their pony until they starve to death because everyone else has already emptied the dumpster of food.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t most (if not all) Republican administrations cause recessions or other damage to economies?
Every Republican presidential term in my lifetime has had a recession start. None of the Democratic ones have…
Regan; one started each term. First Bush had one in his term. Clinton had none in his 2 terms. Second Bush had a HUGE one each time (dot com and great recession). Obama had none in his 2 terms. trump had one in his first term (triggered by covid & shutdowns; which his (in)actions intensified…). Biden didn’t have one (but; just barely… and only by the official definition [NBER]; he did have two negative real GDP quarters, so one could argue this point). Now we’re starting trump’s second term, so we’ll see (it’s pretty clear we’ll have a recession within 2 years).
This isn’t really debatable unless you ignore the evidence. Stock market and real GDP growth are overall way higher under Democrat presidents. One link for reference (but many more are available): https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11127-021-00912-y
The 2008 Crash was the direct result of Clinton’s repealing of the Glass-Steagal Act (with the full support from the Republicans, so I’m not actually excusing them).
In the process of pointing out just how bad the Republicans are for the Economy, let’s not excuse the Democrats so much that it turns into whitewashing.
Same with budget deficits, Clinton even got surpluses…
Clinton repealed the Glass-Steagal Act, inflating a massive bubble (especially in Finance) which blew up in 2008.
If you’re going to laud him for the positive effects of the bubble he inflated, then it’s only fair to criticize him for the ultimate result of his bubble-pumping policies, which wiped out all the gains from the bubble.
He also had an affair
That’s up to him, his wife and his mistress.
I only care about his track record when it applies to the Economy.
Thanks for the link.
Historically the US economy generally performs better under Democratic administrations than Republican ones. I’ve read several articles and studies that show this. I’m on mobile and don’t have the time to find them However polls show that Americans consistently have the opinion that Republican admins are better on economics. And this despite no matter how much evidence os presented.
You are not wrong, I don’t know where the other poster got their information, but Republicans almost always destroy the economy and the Democrats (kind of) fix it just in time to be blamed for the economy being bad.
The “trope” is public perception, not actual historical pattern. Every time a Republican president gets elected the exit polls are full of “economic concerns.” What that actually means is left to interpretation but so it goes.
It means they think minorities had too much money.
Inflation has generally dropped significantly in most developed countries and is mostly tied to post-pandemic effects and the war in Ukraine. So if you ignore the debilitating influence of Trump, you would expect inflation to continue to drop in the US too.
The 3% rate isn’t actually all that high currently, but you’d expect it to trend up again due to tariffs, both from the actual effects and as an excuse for companies to raise prices.
Or Trump could cause a serious recession/depression, in which case inflation will drop (but you won’t be able to buy anything anyway, since you’ll have lost your job).
You are correct. And if Biden or Harris had been elected and we could he reasonably assured we’d continue on a stable path we’d probably be in a different situation. But Trump and team are a different story.