• LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      If you’ve made it this far and you can’t fit the jigsaw pieces of America’s racist history and racist present, plus how politics has been dominated by white men almost exclusively, and how leftists are tired of it on so many levels, and you choose somehow to be offended by a white democratic nominee for president being called “safe white boy,” I don’t know what to tell you.

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        17 days ago

        We elected a black man president in 2008, then suddenly got too racist. Sure, that makes perfect sense. It couldn’t possibly be the platforms the Democrats were running on. /s

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            17 days ago

            Holy fuck. Centrists are so goddamned desperate to run with their “we have to shut out AOC because the US is racist (until she’s no longer a threat to our hegemony)” narrative that they’re pretending Obama isn’t Black.

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            17 days ago

            It’s not like James Brown is likely to run in 2028, so what’s your point?

            The reason we have a fascist groundswell in this country is the same reason any country has ever had a fascist groundswell.

            1. Wealth inequality drives populism.
            2. Wealthy liberals shut out left populism.
            3. Right populism benefits and quickly turns fascist.
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              17 days ago

              My point is we elected the whitest black guy we could possibly find and even then it took 230 years. We still have a long way to go before we pat ourselves on the back.

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                  17 days ago

                  We didn’t “suddenly get too racist”. The US was no more likely to elect a black presenting president in 2008 than we are now. Even one with Obama’s gravitas.

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            16 days ago

            Oh word we can call black people “not black” because they don’t “act black” or aren’t “dark enough” again? Back in my day that was a racism.

            Or is it because he’s mixed? 'Cause that’d be less surprising, historically they’ve been shunned by both racial communities and have trouble identifying with either, and afaict we haven’t caught up to the whole “maybe that’s racist too” thing yet and they can still safely be considered “not really black” by black people and simultaneously “not really white” by white people now that the whole “one drop” business is over. Schrödinger’s Race and all.

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              16 days ago

              Oh word we can call black people “not black” because they don’t “act black” or aren’t “dark enough” again? Back in my day that was a racism.

              We can certainly point out that a person raised by a white parent in a city with less than three percent black people doesn’t really embody the typical black experience.

              Do you believe he would have gotten elected if he grew up in Detroit and spoke with an affect? If so, you have way more faith in American voters than I do.

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      16 days ago

      Racism : prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

      Not feeling the racist vibe off of this. Maybe if she said “cracker” or “slaver” or something like that, but I don’t feel that she is disparaging white men, she’s voicing a complaint that the DNC will not run a candidate that appeals to their base, and will once again try to get the centrist and moderate-right vote again.