It is still irritating though. It really does seem like Micah gets held on every single play. Like… multiple literal chokeholds a game…
This is every good pass rusher on every team. And every person who bitches about it roots for a team who’s OL holds non stop
The plays that look like chokeholds are usually not actually holding. You get to that position usually when the pass rusher does a rip move, which basically pushes the O-lineman’s arm up into a position where they have to either disengage or wrap their arm around the pass rusher. There’s an exception in the rulebook for those plays.
As a fan of a player that loves them: still. There are holds on those players, and the league doesn’t call them.
Aren’t those only holds if the OLine takes the Dlinemen to the ground?
You could point to all the great pass rushers, I see it all the time against JJ and Q on the Jets because I watch them more, but you also see it constantly against Crosby, Hutch, Watt, Garrett, Bosa…
Feels like the inconsistency just removes the advantage of having great pass rushers. That is a literal game changer for the Jets because you know damn well the Offense isn’t gonna do anything, so to see your DL getting mugged just makes it, like you said, irritating.
Good lol
Its also boring when shit offensive play gets bailed out late with some grab ass PI call that was allowed throughout the entire game
This is part of the Chiefs game plan.
We have benefitted from 5 dpi in 2023. The average team is 5.75.
https://www.nflpenalties.com/penalty/defensive-pass-interference?year=2023
He didn’t say you are doing a good job executing the game plan /s
Offensive holding is the worst.
It can be called on every snap…so the refs can use it to control the flow of a game. Sometimes they swallow their whistles.
Worst is when “Team A” is expected to win by a decent margin but it feels like the league wants a nail-biter. They’ll start calling holding on every big play Team A gets so that they stay in 3rd & long situations. Team B hangs in the game long enough to make it interesting. Refs will throw some random penalties at Team B later in the game to even up the flags.
Team B gets a bunch of ticky tack calls and thinks the league conspired against them late in the game. Team A feels like they got a bunch of momentum killing calls early…and would have blown out Team B otherwise.
I feel like they need to use the “the ball was uncatchable” a lot more on the DPI calls.
Oh, you mean every 4th quarter during chiefs games? That’s their best play for converting a crucial 3rd and long!
This sounds oddly familiar. Can’t seem to put my finger on it, though…
Such as a certain Super Bowl game
This penalty that suspiciously hurts the public money, brought to you by Fanduel
Me watching my $2 go down the drain after the gators let Florida state run one in at the end of the game last night
Doesn’t Fanduel make the same money either way because they set the lines so that there is approximately equal money on either side? I really don’t know anything about the industry except for how my father explained bookies to me 40 years ago.
While I am no bookie either, I believe that when a line shifts, that’s the purpose of it, to encourage more money on the other side. If I had to guess, they make a lot of money off of people betting the over on player props and point totals because it just feels bad to root for an under.
No. Sportsbooks inflate the line and odds for favorites and popular teams, then rely on those teams not covering the inflated line and losing more than the odds would suggest.
That’s why you inflate lines on popular teams, so the money equals out. They never said it was statistically fair.
The goal isn’t for the money to equal out on both teams. If they did that, they would have less total bets and make less money, because people like betting on favorites. The goal is to make as much money as possible by having as many people as possible bet on a slightly inflated favorite.
Exactly. If they don’t and 90% of the bets are on the popular team, then the book looses big when the popular team wins.
It would be interesting to see a book be completely transparent about it and open the betting at even odds then move a point in the opposite direction every time the bets get off balance. Of course that would be annoying as a better deciding what to play only to have it constantly change.
Or defensive holding. Especially if it’s in a big game in a crucial situation that essentially ends an exciting game in the most boring way possible. Just as a hypothetical and I’m not still mad at all.
Hey now that strategy kept Matt Canada working for 2+ years
We’re actually below league average on the number of PIs called on our opponents. You generally have to pass downfield to get PI flags and Canada doesn’t stand for that nonsense.
Just wish there was at least consistency. Like it’s become more about when you are called for holding. First down after an incompletion? Not a problem for a lot of teams. On a 20 yard completion on 3rd and 8 on a ticket tack hold that makes you think the ref knew he’d call it prior to the play? That’ll kill a drive and possibly flip a game
“He got caught on his arm for a half second! That’s totally the same as my guy bear hugging the opposing player for the whole play. Why don’t they call it both ways?!” - Typical fans
I disagree, they call 10 holdings a game and Jets fans still watch.
Unironically this
Then why have the rule in the first place. Just allow holding and be done with it b
Every penalty which results in a new set of downs or causes change of possession should be reviewable and challengable (and not like that one time the PI calls, use the sky judge and those make the decisions)
It would be boring, but safer, if holding was legal.
For more fun, make holding illegal while tackling as well. That ought to boost the offense.
Holdings
I disagree. I don’t care if every game ends 10-6 I’m interested in actual play not fake bullshit to pump numbers up.
Honestly the NFL doesn’t really care about us too much, I bet. We’re here talking about football in an online forum minutes before football is on. They already got us.
They don’t miss holdings when the Jets are on offense.
It would be offensive for the players to follow the rules. I agree.
#firegoodell
What’s offensive is bad reffing
Coaches probably tell them to just hold since the refs aren’t consistent enough but I get what Micahs saying. Last week he got hit in the face mask 2 feet from the back official and they didn’t call it. Something like that would irk me too