• ghostofwalsh@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I don’t know why you’d just be looking at losses? Seems like QB EPA in wins is also kind of important as far as deciding if the QB is doing well.

    Also, someone like Hurts only has one loss so wouldn’t that be a pretty small sample size?

  • LuthorM@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Just saw this morning SNF and thought Chargers and Bucs are pretty similar teams. Not saying Baker and Herbert are the same but issues with both teams are quite similar, even their records are identical.

  • Quirky-Lawyer-3409@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    This should really be scaled in some way. EPA per play in losses, or average EPA per loss or something. This skews the data heavily against QBs whose teams have lost a lot. Granted, Mac Jones is terrible regardless, but the perspective is screwed up by using total EPA in losses.

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      1 year ago

      Well yes, but also no.

      A QB can play good (or at least produce a positive EPA) and their team can still lose.

      So while losing more games will make a QBs sample size larger, that doesn’t automatically mean he will be lower on this chart.

      Obviously these are extreme examples, but NE only has two more losses than LAC.

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    1 year ago

    Top couple names aren’t surprising, but the tier right below them has a few interesting ones

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      1 year ago

      That middle section is the one that’s wild to me. Goff, Russ (less surprising), Mahomes, Tua, Lamar, and Burrow are all downright bad in losses. Goes to show how much impact they have on the roster as a whole.

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        1 year ago

        The ones with only 3 losses don’t have much of a sample size for this chart so one bad game will skew it. Mahomes almost certainly all comes from the Broncos game, which was his worst EPA ever in a start.

      • LeonidasSpacemanMD@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        I wonder if it’s partially because (for example) a guy like Mahomes will frequently find a way to scratch out wins even if he doesn’t play great for part of the game, and so if they lose it is sometimes because he made some huge uncharacteristic mistakes or whatever

        Like herbert and Allen are good QBs who just keep losing in all kinds of situations this year, good play or not. It kinda takes and particularly subpar performance for Mahomes or tua to lose the way those teams have been playing