- Mod of !anarchism@slrpnk.net posts a great Greta Thunberg quote, but then tries to use it to justify not voting in the upcoming US election
- Multiple people point out thatās very clearly not what she meant
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Using your mod powers to decide who is allowed and not allowed to speak is not very anarchist of you, @mambabasa@slrpnk.net
SLRPNK is an intentionally both an international instance, as well as an ideologically diverse instance. We give a lot of autonomy to moderators. Despite being administered by anarchists and having a significant membership that identifies as anarchist, we expect our anti-fascist moderators to follow the politics of their conscience rather than toe a particular anarchist line. Solarpunk is an internationalist movement, and should not be dominated by any one country or culture.
These two goals sometimes create tension. A significant portion of our international audience is from the United States, and some SLRPNK moderators have filled their community feeds with Democratic Party propaganda. I guarantee @mambabasa does not want Trump to win, and criticizing the hypocrisy of liberal politicians and the losing proposition of elevating electoral politics above direct action is not an endorsement of fascism.
His meme posts exist in the context of a local feed full of United States election centered news in what is supposed to be a haven for internationalists and anarchists. Theyāre a reminder that anarchists are not edgy Democrats, and if that idea is offensive, you can unsubscribe and block !anarchism and !notvoting@slrpnk.net. Other people existing who donāt share your politics and have their own spaces should not be so threatening to someone with confidence in their own ideology.
Do you have an example of this? Which community?
Ask this guy, I think he can guess at least one of them. Remember to tell him anarchist admins are the real authoritarians because we support our community moderators, and that weāre bad for letting people into our space to use it for political propaganda, because they are making a pretty thin and implausible claim to being on our team.
I wasnāt asking that as a sarcastic question. It was serious.
I donāt think there are communities on Slrpnk that are brimming with Democratic propaganda. Thereās some kind of weird backwards-ism going on here, where Mambabasa constantly spamming stuff about Harris and the Democrats counts as some kind of innocent anarchism, and Iām dogpiling partisan propaganda on him when I say that actually it sounds pretty clear to me that Greta Thunberg is saying Trump and specifically Trump is a terrible threat. I think youāre exaggerating events into this caricature, and then telling me straight-faced that the caricature is whatās going on. But, maybe not. Maybe Iām wrong. So, I asked about the Democratic propaganda on Slrpnk that youāre saying is happening.
I think the bulk of Lemmy, anarchist and not, sees it the same way I do here. You can look up and down in these comments if you want. You and the other Slrpnk admins are not required to see it the same, of course, or to give me a serious response. You can say whatever you like. But it was a serious question.
I didnāt think you were asking sarcastically. But I donāt think youāre serious.
Youāre attacking SLRPNK for being covert Republican operatives when youāre simultaneously commenting in another YPTB thread thatās calling us out for being covert Democrats. I should not have to do this much hand-holding with someone who genuinely wants information. The answers are right under your nose, but it benefits your grandstanding victim complex not to see them.
I didnāt say that. I said Mambabasa is. I think the rest of the Slrpnk team is supporting him in this because he identifies himself as an anarchist and fits in with your team.
He posted a meme about Jill Stein, which is a weird thing for an anti-electoralist to do, and then denied ever having done that and claimed not to know who āthis Jill personā was, when I asked him about it. Heās been assaulting various people in the comments for all kinds of various imaginary things.
Most of the anarchists and others in this comment section who looked at his conduct, and his posting pattern, havenāt been at all in favor of what heās doing. I donāt know if anyone but me thinks he is deliberately posting political propaganda. I definitely think that. I think the rest of you are being overly kind to someone who is hijacking the community youāre providing so they can propagandize it, giving a bad name to anarchism by their overall conduct, and not really promoting anarchism for the last few weeks, so much as letās-elect-Trump ism. Some other clues such as posting Greta Thunbergās quote and insisting that it means we can vote for third parties since it doesnāt matter who wins the election are present as well.
You can think what you like. But yes, that is what I am attacking him for.
You missed the ā/sā?
I was clearly making fun of the OP of that post for complaining about Slrpnk being covert Democrats, when Slrpnk is about the furthest thing possible from that, and the issue was clearly OP. It seems like what I said was widely understood to mean that within the comments.
No. I understand your sarcasm. Iām confused by your sincerity.
Why do you think the OP mistook SLRPNK for Democrats?
I have no idea. If I had to guess, I would say that indexās history pegs them as one of the accounts that posts almost exclusively āwhy the Democrats and specifically the Democrats are badā content, along with being aggressively toxic to anyone who has anything to say about it, and they were banned for the toxicity and then proceeded to whine about it using whatever random bad-faith nonsense came to mind. In this case, what came to mind was the well-worn trope that the mods were brainwashed by liberal propaganda and were censoring anything truthful to try to push their program of getting Kamala Harris elected.
I donāt know any of that for sure of course, and I didnāt care enough to do more than a brief investigation. I just thought it was funny that they were applying reflexive accusations of liberal whitewashing against a target that was even sillier than most of the targets that it gets applied against.
Apathy and lack of curiosity towards people who think differently from you is a virtue, donāt let anyone else tell you otherwise. Never change, Phil.