Try it with this search:

an entire block of smash car windows

I’ll have to test Searx, Grasp, & Kagi. Right now I start with DDG and bang out to Google (append !g to my DDG search) at least half the time.

So note to DDG devs: those Google bang searches had results that left me disaPPOINTED!

  • Illecors@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    34·
    11 months ago

    I get the same issue all the time lately. Search, click link, go back - clicked link gone, different results shown.

    • Akasazh@feddit.nl
      3·
      11 months ago

      I always use mousewheeldown click nowadays, it opens the link in a new tab.

      Also mwd on the tabs themselves close the tab (without needing to hit the tiny cross).

      Changed the way I browse

      • Illecors@lemmy.cafeEnglish
        3·
        11 months ago

        That’s what I do on the desktop, but on mobile there’s no quick way to open a new tab.

        • Ferk@kbin.social
          1·
          11 months ago

          Would it help turning on the setting to have the links always open in a new tab?
          It’s been a long time since I used ddg, but I believe they have the option in their settings page, most search engines do.

          • Illecors@lemmy.cafeEnglish
            1·
            11 months ago

            While this is not a bad shout, I hate that this rearranging logic has made it to production in the first place. Ddg should really know better.

  • Thomrade@lemmy.world
    21·
    11 months ago

    I am not a search engine engineer.

    Here are some things it might be though:

    It could be that the results you see first are cached on their servers, and expiring from that cache between your searches. however usually when something requested is pulled from a cache, the items lifespan in the cache is usually refreshed so it lives a bit longer.

    It could be that certain they are NOT cached at all, and certain sites are rate limiting the DDG crawler hitting them and returning info to you, so DDG takes them out of the results as they cannot confirm the site is alive. I noticed reddit disappeared from the results and we all know about Reddit and their APIs here.

    It could also be their ranking algorithm for results is not as deterministic as they want it to be, it could also be that way by design. Page ranking is a closely guarded trade secret, especially at big places like Google. DDG results will never match 1:1 with Google. Personally, I prefer DDGs results to Google.

    • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksOP
      6·
      11 months ago

      Thanks for testing. What did you try? Any of the same refreshing + intermixing completely clearing cache/cookies/history?

      My environment: iPhone 14 Pro using Firefox Focus 120.0. Saw the same rearranging behavior in Orion on iOS as well.

      Three users here (besides the hundred upvotes) noticed something similar: https://infosec.pub/comment/4407136

      • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksOP
        2·
        11 months ago

        Is this to mean you believe DDG was presenting identical results with each refresh/new search, while my browser failed to properly display what was returned?

        Or perhaps something else?

        (I’m not an engineer, just doing my best heh - thanks)

  • Karna@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3·
    11 months ago

    If possible, self-host SearxNG using Docker/Podman to avoid all of these.