• Spacehooks@reddthat.com
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    11 months ago

    If dems got off the 2A stuff they would get more voters ::cough cough:: Texas. I know people that are like yeah abortion is not a deal breaker for me but guns are. Mostly people who are too old to have kids anyway. I’m sure Mass shooting will go down once we have social nets to get people the help they need. Guns are like Cars. Fine when used by responsible adults baaaad otherwise. No one does these things because they have happy content lives.

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      11 months ago

      If Dems focused on what actually would curb the violence, and dropped guns. They’d sweep the elections for decades.

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        11 months ago

        One problem was that the CDC was banned from studying the causes of gun violence from 1997 until 2018 due to the Dickey Amendment. We should have had big studies done to see just what the problems were (I’m sure it’s not just one) and what solutions might give the best results while infringing on people’s rights the least. Instead, even studying why gun violence was a problem was banned.

        Thankfully, the Dickey Amendment was clarified (but not repealed) and gun violence research is allowed. Still, the studies aren’t allowed to call for gun control so they are still hobbled. So while new proposals based on studies can be made, gun control won’t be one of them even if it would be effective.

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          11 months ago

          Our leadership has time and time again daid it’s mental health, they know it. No research is needed. Just expand mental Healthcare before the Joker movie becomes a reality.

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          11 months ago

          No they where not, they weren’t ever banned from studying gun violence. They just weren’t allowed to use it as a way to sway public opinion…which is what the, at the time, acting leadership of the CDC wanted to do.

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        11 months ago

        That’s downright fantasy talk. Voters minds have been so poisoned that they don’t give a shit about policy anymore. Republican politicians haven’t had an actual platform for at least a decade.

        Their platform is only to stimie any progress and protect the rich. They may say lots of words but one need only look at the way they vote and yet are still consistently reelected.

        They say they’ll fix things but never do even when they control both houses and the presidency. That should have been a republican free for all in 2016, but nothing of value happened for those two years. No immigration reform. No healthcare reform. No gun reform. Oh, but they did pass a tax reform bill and guess who that helped.

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          11 months ago

          You said voters minds have been poisoned … … then went on a they they they rant proving your point. You get that, right?

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            11 months ago

            My rant illustrated my point, yes, but I don’t think it’s the gotcha that you seem to think it is.

            My point is that people are voting for politicians who are actively working against many of their constituents interests. And they’re tending to vote that way because they believe politicians’ words instead of observing their actions.

            If you care to refute any of my points, feel free.

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      11 months ago

      Watching beto shoot himself in the foot with the gun grabbing line should have been a bigger indicator. Theres plenty of room for pro 2a dems and dems with complex views on the issue. Gun ownership is rising in both parties, dems faster than republicans. Dems cant pass laws even if they win, they can’t afford to do stupid no chance moves that cost them seats.

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      11 months ago

      Yesbabsolutely. They’d win the nation if they dropped the anti gun platform.