• PugJesus@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    Deeper than the system, unfortunately. A supermajority of Americans are still extremely pro-Israel. Some for batshit insane religious reasons, others for reasons of ignorance. A few out of pure malice, one presumes.

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      11 months ago

      Americans are pro-Israel because, for the past 75 years, we’ve been taught and told that all the Arabs and/or Muslims want to destroy Israel and we are the only country that can prevent that from happening.

      For the majority of Americans, it is not religion or ignorance, it is simply political dogma.

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        11 months ago

        America wasn’t particularly friendly towards Israel until the 70s, though.

        And to be fair, much of the Arab world has wanted to destroy Israel.

        We have little sway in that matter, though. Israel survived before we lent them assistance, and they were much worse off back then, and their enemies much more determined.

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          11 months ago

          Good! The let’s stop selling them weapons, withdraw our carriers, and let them deal with the consequences of their actions on their own.

          It is really fucking easy to do what you want, to be ho you want, with no repercussions when you have the worlds strongest military backing you.

          The little fuckers wouldn’t have enough balls to do what they have been doing without our backing.

          For fucks sake, they are so scared and cowardly that they are shooting innocent hostages, with their shirts off, hands up and a white flag in them.

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            11 months ago

            Good! The let’s stop selling them weapons, withdraw our carriers, and let them deal with the consequences of their actions on their own.

            I mean, shit, you won’t find any disagreement from me. As far as I’m concerned, Israel should be treated as a hostile actor to the US.

            The little fuckers wouldn’t have enough balls to do what they have been doing without our backing.

            Don’t know about that, though.

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            11 months ago

            Cutting off all military aid to Israel would definitely make us feel better for a minute, but I think your post accurately points out that what comes next is likely to be much worse. One genocide may turn into a different genocide as the regional powers decide it’s open season on Israel. Then once Israel is facing probable eradication, the US is faced with allowing the destruction of Israel (including Israelis that oppose the current actions of their state), or getting back into a conflict, now with many more regional forces, and possibly nation states involved.

            I absolutely agree with you that the IDF’s actions are abhorrent and consistent with war crimes as I understand international agreement (which is only layman’s understanding), but Bibi appears to be playing chicken with the entire population of Israel, and Biden may have blinked after considering the consequences.

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              10 months ago

              Those are the consequences of their actions, let the smart ones get out and the war hawks get what they paid for.

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        Older Americans inherited the post WW2 mentality to support Israel. And they couldn’t say anything critical for fear of being called anti-Semitic.

        Younger Americans don’t have this and laugh at the attempts to call criticism anti-Semitic. (The exception are religious people who support Israel because Bible something.)

        It’s a generational thing. That’s why support for Israel is falling.