• Aldehyde@kbin.social
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      11 months ago

      Vote red so they can do the same thing while making life worse for Americans as well

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      11 months ago

      I don’t belive the blue and red positions are very far apart on this particular issue. This is certainly an issue that justifies passionate response, but unless there is a candidate from the red that states that they would take a different approach more aligned with your values, I would look to other issues where the parties have made their differing positions more clear to decide which is more deserving of your vote.

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          11 months ago

          When all criticism is conflated with voting Republican, it’s the same damned thing.

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        Fight for change in your party in the primaries. Nobody fucking votes in the primaries. That’s where intra party change happens. If Democrats lose in the general what do you think happens? They’re gonna get more left wing? No, they’re going to move to the right because they’re going to think that’s what they need to do to win. They need to win in the general and you need to change the party in the primary.

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          11 months ago

          Fight for change in your party in the primaries.

          Yeah, I’ve seen what the party does to progressives in primaries. This is just gloating.

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          How has moving more to the right been working for them? They need to realize already that they’re out of touch with much of their voter base. Maybe they don’t run more progressive candidates in purple states as a strategic call, but they could try something new in more liberal cities, at least, and start moving the conversation. I can’t be the only one where my primary options straight up suck. Oh, yeah, change things from within, where I have Corporate Democrats #1 and #2, running along with the Working Families Party candidate whose only concession is something weak like “Maybe we should increase EBT eligibility, but means test the hell out of it so it’s a full time job to manage your application.”

          The current Democratic party basically claims to represent everyone to the left of Mussolini at this point, and that’s too big a group to be a functional political unit. Unfortunately, we’re basically screwed on a third party being viable, as it would depend on the two current parties taking action to change voting procedures in a way that could only hurt them. Democrats and Republicans are both content to sit on their hands right now, as they know that no matter how unpopular they may be, how badly they might lose elections, it’s only a matter of time before the other guys piss people off enough and the pendulum swings back to them.