• Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    Solution: dump more money into the war, no peace talks with Russia, just keep dumping all the equipment reserves so that the stock line goes up!

    Deliver the F-16s and when that fails to beat Russia just like every promised wunderwaffe has just make up a new one!

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      1 year ago

      Wow, Ukraine needs equipment to fight off an aggressor with a population almost 4 times bigger than its own. What a thought!

      I also find it interesting that you want to have ‘peace talks’ with a country that not only invaded without provocation, but also continues to rape and torture people, among other war crimes they have, are and undoubtedly will continue to commit.

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        Ukraine did sign a peace deal with Russia at the beginning of this mess, and then immediately backed out when the West yanked Zelensky’s leash.

        It’s very telling that the terms that Russia imposed on this deal were:

        1. Neutrality

        2. Stop bombing East Ukraine

        3. Accept that East Ukrainians can speak and learn Russian if they wish to.

        4. Remove Nazis from positions of power and the military.

        Russia did not start a war of conquest in Ukraine. That’s just the Western narrative to maintain popular support for a proxy war with a nuclear power.

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          1 year ago

          Sure, the evil west forced them to rape and pillage and torture and bomb civilians and kidnap children and take over land that is not theirs. It’s not conquest, it’s just taking land that’s not theirs! It’s fine because the west made them do it! /s

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            1 year ago

            Do you have any proof for those accusations, or are you just assuming they are true because it’s convenient to believe so?

            Because we know what the West has done. It’s all recorded. Lindsay Graham going to Azov Battalion fighters and telling them “this is the year of offence”. Boris Johnson telling Zelensky to abandon peace talks or “the West won’t protect him”. Adam Shiff standing in Congress and saying “we need to fight Russia over there, so we don’t have to fight them over here”. Angela Merkel admitting that the Minsk Accords were simply a ploy for time to arm Ukraine to fight Russia. NATO insisting on inviting Ukraine in and stationing nuclear-capable missiles less than 1000 km from Moscow. A coup in Kiev organized by Americans, as admitted by several Ukrainians who took part in it. And 14000 dead Ukrainians after 8 years of continuous shelling by Nazis, specifically targeting civilians. But of course those dead weren’t killed by Russian forces, so it’s easy to ignore them.

            Any more double standards you want me to break down for you, you fucking hypocrite armchair warmonger?

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      1 year ago

      Well the Ukrainian people want exactly that to happen and there’s no ethical reason for Russia to invade a sovereign country.
      If anything the west should show less hesitation to deliver really spicy stuff.