Telegram is just actually superior in terms of features I don’t get it.
Why does anyone choose Telegram or WhatsApp over Signal which is encrypted and audited? (Probably features I don’t care about, but they do)
Telegram let’s you send 2gb files, and stores them forever. Signal has a 100mb limit.
It also used to be easier to set up on multiple devices at the same time, but I believe that Whatsapp and Signal have improved that by now too.
Why switch platforms if all your data is still being collected? This just provides another business with your data to sell and possibly have hacked. Sure, Telegram offers encryption, but it’s not enabled by default even though they advertise it thoroughly. This demonstrates they’re taking advantage of peoples desire for privacy simply to increase their user base while making the users + contacts do all the work.
As far as file sharing, with ProtonDrive I can use any messaging service and send a 500GB file if I wanted, fully encrypted with password protection and an expiration date. Telegram keeping the files forever doesn’t seem like a benefit either.
Right?
I use email with GnuPG. Everything else is woefully insecure. BTW, I have no friends.
Simply because everyone is using WhatsApp. And people want to use something that will let them be able to reach almost all their contacts.
Yet I do prefer & use Threema.
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WhatsApp was there first and it was useful in countries where you paid for each individual SMS.
a) because it’s what everyone I know uses
b) telegram is not end-to-end encrypted by default. And not end-to-end encrypted at all for group chats. That’s kind of a dealbreaker. Telegram is one of the last messaging apps I’d recommend.
It’s also closed source and doesn’t really specify the specifics of its crypto implementation or really even the underlying technology.
Edit - I was apparently mistaken or my information is outdated. MTProto is indeed open source, though I swear that hasn’t always been the case.
Why do not more people choose a matrix server and use a decentralized way of communication instead of committing themselves to this or that app/company?
Because most people they know use WhatsApp/Facebook/Instagram.
If I were clever enough to host my own matrix server I would in a heartbeat. Bridges to WhatsApp, insta, fb, etc. are game changers.
I found a server in the list I posted that was hosted by people in my area and funded by donations. I got in touch with them and they even implemented some bridges with that server. Now I am using it with a WhatsApp bridge, feels pretty seamless.
Telegram gives me:
- Roll-their-own encryption off-by-default without cross-device support or group chat available.
- The ability to talk to strangers I don’t want to talk to
- An open source client, but a proprietary, non-federated server
- An unmoderated social network that’s a free-for-all for crypto scammers, extremists, and other nuts
WhatsApp gives me:
- Signal’s encryption algorithm on all chats
- Whatsapp web (still with encryption)
- Encrypted group chats
- The ability to talk to human beings I actually know and want to talk to
Neither respects my privacy.
Not sure why I would bother attempting to use Telegram again.
WhatsApp gives me:
1,2,3 - closed source app that has not been audited but you chose to believe that is backdoor free, ok then
4 - half true, whatsapp business is full of automated responses, not too many human beings there
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I do not use “whatsapp business,” no idea why I would.
I do not seek to use a service and then interact with the people who happen to be on that service, I seek to interact with people and meet them on the service they’re using. The fediverse is an exception, because I believe in the principles, but the experience sucks because it’s all tech with no real community (Lemmy/Kbin) and none of the people I want to follow (Mastodon).
The quality and superiority of those apps can be ranked without even going into technical/privacy details.
Telegram
WhatsApp
Signal
every emoji looks much better in signal, except the screaming one, there WhatsApp does it best.
… and the ones from Telegram are just ugly throughout.
Using an emoji lineup to pick what service is superior is the most pantshittingly stupid reasoning i have ever seen. Jesus fucking christ.
It’s a messaging app where you message other people, including close family and friends. Emojis are one of the most used features. If the emojis look trash compared to the competition, that’s one more barrier to entry for the average user. Me and you most probably don’t care about that at all and prioritise other features way above emojis, but for other users it matters a ton.
