• Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
    726·
    2 years ago

    Memes are cool. Blatant misinformation in the form of a meme to manufacture outrage, not so much.

      • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
        516·
        2 years ago

        Even though this has been explained many times since the whole hullabaloo, I’ll assume you’re genuinely unaware and/or perhaps got rage-farmed by someone else’s meme. The current meme implies that Ubuntu/Canonical have actively disabled safety/security features in the form of withholding security updates, unless you pay for Ubuntu Pro subscription. The Ubuntu package support hasn’t changed with the introduction of Ubuntu Pro. The packages that were supported by Canonical prior to this are supported the same way today. The packages that were community supported prior to this are supported the same way today. Without Ununtu Pro. There is net new support by Canonical that covers community-supported packages too which is available with Ubuntu Pro subscription. Therefore Canonical hasn’t removed any existing, previously free security support. In addition, this newly added security support is available for free for up to 5 machines and it lasts for 10 years.

        More info here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-faq/34042

            • zecg@lemmy.world
              3·
              2 years ago

              I agree with all three. I always removed (not too long ago) all those lenses with apt, install whatever display server I want with apt and use apt to remove all traces of snap. I still use it, though. For dudes using gnu/linux at home Ubuntu is just Debian without the drama.

        • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev
          41·
          2 years ago

          As a sysadmin that dealt with IBM “helping” CentOS into an early grave, I refuse to give canonical or any for-profit corporation the benefit of the doubt here. After seeing how many products start out free and move towards paid or ad supported models once they think they can get away with it, I doubt this is done out of goodwill, either.

          • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
            4·
            2 years ago

            Don’t need to. It’s useful while free for people who wouldn’t otherwise pay for it. If/when we get the rug pulled from under us, mothrrship Debian is right there.

        • Arthur Besse@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          I’ll assume you’re genuinely unaware

          I’m perfectly aware of what Ubuntu Pro is, and the difference between Ubuntu main and universe.

          The current meme implies that Ubuntu/Canonical have actively disabled safety/security features in the form of withholding security updates, unless you pay for Ubuntu Pro subscription. The Ubuntu package support hasn’t changed with the introduction of Ubuntu Pro. The packages that were supported by Canonical prior to this are supported the same way today. The packages that were community supported prior to this are supported the same way today. Without Ununtu Pro.

          If you think the meme implies that, then surely you must think that the message printed by Ubuntu’s apt upgrade command in the screenshot implies that too, right?

          One of the packages listed in this screenshot is libavcodec, which is required by things like VLC (which is in Ubuntu universe, which is enabled by default).

          If you think it is perfectly fine for Canonical to do the work to patch that library and then withhold the security update from the vast majority of Ubuntu users who won’t sign up for Ubuntu Pro… we’ll have to agree to disagree.

  • RegalPotoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    453·
    2 years ago

    Down vote away, I don’t care, but they really aren’t though.

    Pretty big difference between buying a thing that stops working if you don’t have an active subscription, and using an old LTS and being given the choice of paying for extended support or the free upgrade to the new LTS

    • hedgehog@ttrpg.network
      161·
      2 years ago

      Pretty big difference between buying a thing that stops working if you don’t have an active subscription, and using an old LTS and being given the choice of paying for extended support if you’re a corporation, signing up for a free “subscription” if you’re not, or the free upgrade to the new LTS

      FTFY, it’s an even bigger difference when the extended support is free for end users.

  • shrugal@lemm.ee
    292·
    2 years ago

    I’m no fan of Ubuntu, but maintaining an LTS release and backporting security updates is actual ongoing work. Most distros don’t even provide an LTS release for that reason.

    • Pantherina@feddit.de
      161·
      2 years ago

      Its universe, the community repo. Basically you can pay them to also supply you with community updates, a service. The official repos stay untouched.

      People always want free software, but free ≠ free beer?

  • BiggestBulb@kbin.run
    176·
    2 years ago

    If you happen to be new to Linux, do yourself a favor and start on Linux Mint.

    There are no snaps, you can still install pretty much everything you can with Ubuntu, the Cinnamon Desktop is nice (better than Gnome in my opinion, but then again, I haven’t used Gnome that much) and you don’t have to deal with ads in the terminal. Mint is the distro most people should start on.

    • cogitoprinciple@lemmy.world
      7·
      2 years ago

      This. Mint is one of my favourite distros and what I started with. I had tried Ubuntu, but this was the distro that made using Linux as a daily driver possible. Now I’ve moved on to Debian Stable. But Mint allowed me to get into Linux and get a good understanding of the basics.

      • bbuez@lemmy.world
        4·
        2 years ago

        Mint is the GOAT, I was a little sad to switch to PopOS, really wanted the tiling window manager. I would say either are a great start, but honestly mint was more stable

    • astar26@ttrpg.network
      81·
      2 years ago

      Those are community maintained packages in the first place. Canonical offers extended security updates (plus after the 5 year LTS EOL) for a fee, with 5 machines for free for non-commercial uses.

      Very legit IMO

    • Pantherina@feddit.de
      7·
      2 years ago

      Ubuntu is completely free lol. This is only about the community repo. Like if RHEL would also support EPEL which they dont

    • Arthur Besse@lemmy.mlOP
      35·
      2 years ago

      Meh, how’s this different from RH?

      It took Canonical about four times as long (twenty years vs five) to start doing this.

      Dissatisfaction with RedHat’s introduction of RHN (in 2000) was arguably a significant factor contributing to Ubuntu’s rapid growth when it was first released (in 2004).

      • keefshape@lemmy.ca
        2·
        2 years ago

        I would go so far as to say it was THE key factor to Ubuntu’s initial success in 2004ish.

  • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    912·
    2 years ago

    Theres a reason this is the distro all the corpos push and include with everything. I use arch btw.

  • nodsocket@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
    1024·
    2 years ago

    Ubuntu is officially malware.

    Okay tbf this is meant for companies that need to meet specific requirements like government privacy regulations, which change every year and need to be actively maintained or else you get in legal trouble.

    • Arthur Besse@lemmy.mlOP
      57·
      2 years ago

      Okay tbf this is meant for companies that need to meet specific requirements like government privacy regulations, which change every year and need to be actively maintained or else you get in legal trouble.

      Yeah you pretty much would only ever need to install these updates to libavcodec and imagemagick for regulatory compliance reasons, or maybe if you wanted to be able to safely load video or image files found on the internet without being subject to compromise by widely-available exploits for vulnerabilities that were published and fixed upstream last year.