- I switched to Firefox directly when my iPhone asked me to make a choice. It’s the browser I use on my other machines so why not. - Currently Firefox on the iPhone is still running Safari. It’ll soon change for folks in the EU only. - Any idea where I can see a timeline for this change? I’m eager to see a decent browser on ios. 
- It will only change if the developer goes ahead and makes a special EU version for the app. And many wont, because that takes too many human resources to do and maintain. This was a rule made by Apple on purpose, together with all their other malicious compliance moves: they made it hard for developers so devs will just keep everything as it always was and not use the new EU exclusive things 
- It could change based on EU regulations, I seem to recall Mozilla saying they weren’t going to maintain two versions though. 
 
- Why did you have to wait for your phone to ask you? 
 
- Yes, and any of those are already providing their own engines or they’re still all Apple’s WebKit? - All are still on WebKit, as that’s all Apple has allowed so far. Having other engines running on iOS is still far off, if it ever happens as it’s a ton of work. - Especially as iirc it would only work for EU users anyway, because Apple is being as huge of a dick as it possibly can be. 
 
- This is the best summary I could come up with: 
 - The DMA applies to a set of six technology giants that have been designated as “gatekeepers” in order to limit their tendency to boost the usage of their own offerings – such as their own browsers, webmail, and marketplaces – to the detriment of rivals, which are pushed out of the way. - This walloping of competitors, which slashes choice and innovation, is usually achieved through default settings, contractual requirements, and other mechanisms that favor the big players over smaller upstarts. - And in a social media post, the developer cited those results as evidence that Apple and Google have made it hard to switch default browsers specifically to block competition. - “The monopolistic practices employed by Big Tech have often hindered Firefox’s ability to innovate and offer users competitive alternatives,” a Moz spokesperson told The Register. - “We are still reviewing the technical details but are extremely disappointed with Apple’s proposed plan to restrict the newly-announced BrowserEngineKit to EU-specific apps,” Mozilla’s spokesperson lamented. - Jon von Tetzchner, CEO of browser maker Vivaldi, told The Register in a phone interview that while the European Commission’s intervention has been helpful, the results have been modest – and he expects further pressure will need to be applied to gatekeepers. 
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- Aren’t all these browsers still also running Safari in the background? - deleted by creator 
 
- I prefer Brave’s interface over Safari on iOS even if they both use the same engine. I like how Brave has the scrollable tabs in portrait mode and the search button on the bottom so I don’t need to reach over. Also it syncs well with my laptops which I use Brave on too. 
- no surprise really, Safari on mobile has been broken for months now. The back button crashes the tab you’re using so you can’t really navigate the web. - even if Firefox etc uses webkit on iOS, at least the back button works. 










