I suppose if we’re being honest with ourselves, one benefit was getting to leave Africa and come to America. There seems to be a lot of people out here dying to illegally cross our borders.
Holy shit this is stupid. These people were forcibly taken from their homes, stacked like wood in the holds of ships where many of them died, then treated worse than animals when they got here. So no, that wasn’t a benefit.
No I’m just being provocative for the sake of conversation.
Overall I think their generational offspring’s lives are likely “improved” compared to maybe the similar generations who remained in their homeland these days.
However, those that were slaves definitely suffered a very unjust and horrific existence that is inexcusable.
I mean, when you converse with highly reactionary and closed minded people, yeah. But having these types of conversations and exploring uncomfortable topics is actually very healthy for society. Censorship and pearl clutching tends to be regressive.
They were taken hostage by African Tribes, sold to the Dutch, put on ships, shipped to North and South America, and forced into slavery. I don’t think you can compare that to migrants fleeing to Canada, who are trapped south of the United States border.
Yeah it must have been really great to get kidnapped from your home and family and forcibly sold into slavery, shipped from one undeveloped country to another undeveloped country. Stop with this nonsense - there is nothing good about slavery. Period. Done. End of story. Absolutely sickening. Pure evil.
Yeah what luck! America in 1619, with its gleaming cities and endless opportunities - every African aspired to be a member of those huddled masses yearning to breathe enslaved!
How about this, what if the millions of black people that were brought over to the states, instead remained in Africa and built it to be a prominent and thriving nation.
If it wasn’t for black slaves building the U.S. one could argue that it wouldn’t be where it is today.
I believe the African tribesmen are the ones who sold them.
That’s not really a defense; considering not one cracker stopped and said “hey, wait, this is wrong; these aren’t chattel” for another two hundred and fifty years.
Don’t get me wrong, I am in no way defending what occurred. It is horrible, terrible shit beyond redemption. I was just pointing out that often overlooked aspect of history.
Yeah I’m sure the thousands of people who died in the hulls of slave ships, chained in place in their own piss and shit and sick, hungry and afraid, really appreciated the chance to come to America where the streets are paved with gold. You fucking moron.
The America they were forced to come to was vastly different from the one we live in today. How would that be better than where they already lived? How would someone benefit from being ripped from their family and support system and dropped in an undeveloped country to do forced labor?
I suppose if we’re being honest with ourselves, one benefit was getting to leave Africa and come to America. There seems to be a lot of people out here dying to illegally cross our borders.
Holy shit this is stupid. These people were forcibly taken from their homes, stacked like wood in the holds of ships where many of them died, then treated worse than animals when they got here. So no, that wasn’t a benefit.
Sounds like you’re from Florida though
No I’m just being provocative for the sake of conversation.
Overall I think their generational offspring’s lives are likely “improved” compared to maybe the similar generations who remained in their homeland these days.
However, those that were slaves definitely suffered a very unjust and horrific existence that is inexcusable.
The activity you just described is called “trolling.”
I’m not sure I agree with you.
Also known as “being an asshole”
Man, you must be a lot of fun to be around…
Seeing your replies to this and other comments, it’s clear you are loving all this attention. Classic troll behavior. Fuck directly off.
Trolls are the stupid person’s idea of an intellectual
There has to be some validity to a point for it to be provocative. You’ve utterly failed there.
Funny difference here is though that slaves were kidnapped and sold, had no choice in the matter.
This benefit is akin to force someone into hard labour and then start selling getting calluses as a ‘benefit’. Your welcome. Absurd of course.
For sure absurd. I’m just being provoking for the sake of conversation.
Being a troll doesn’t provoke “conversation.” It’s a dead end with people just calling you an asshole.
I mean, when you converse with highly reactionary and closed minded people, yeah. But having these types of conversations and exploring uncomfortable topics is actually very healthy for society. Censorship and pearl clutching tends to be regressive.
No one is censoring you. Your opinion is there for all to read. The consensus of the conversation seems to be that it was a bad one.
Fuck you.
AKA being an internet edge lord
Whatever label helps your mind avoid total shutdown is fine with me.
You’re really doubling down on your stupidity, aren’t you?
You’re allowed to think whatever you want.
You’re a cool dude :)
They were taken hostage by African Tribes, sold to the Dutch, put on ships, shipped to North and South America, and forced into slavery. I don’t think you can compare that to migrants fleeing to Canada, who are trapped south of the United States border.
How is that a benefit? They were slaves taken from their homes not immigrants.
And even if they were immigrants, how is becoming a slave a good thing in any way?
Yeah it must have been really great to get kidnapped from your home and family and forcibly sold into slavery, shipped from one undeveloped country to another undeveloped country. Stop with this nonsense - there is nothing good about slavery. Period. Done. End of story. Absolutely sickening. Pure evil.
Yeah what luck! America in 1619, with its gleaming cities and endless opportunities - every African aspired to be a member of those huddled masses yearning to breathe enslaved!
How about this, what if the millions of black people that were brought over to the states, instead remained in Africa and built it to be a prominent and thriving nation.
If it wasn’t for black slaves building the U.S. one could argue that it wouldn’t be where it is today.
Yeah it’s not like ruining a country, you know, ruins a country. Who would think that.
yeah, sure, getting colonized, stolen from five ways from sunday, and oppressed in what’s mockingly called our ‘liberty’. So beneficial. SO lucky.
I believe the African tribesmen are the ones who sold them. I’m not sure it 100% constitutes as kidnapping in this case.
There may have been kidnappings but to my understanding they were sold out by their own people.
Once again, still fucking terrible beyond imagining.
That’s not really a defense; considering not one cracker stopped and said “hey, wait, this is wrong; these aren’t chattel” for another two hundred and fifty years.
Don’t get me wrong, I am in no way defending what occurred. It is horrible, terrible shit beyond redemption. I was just pointing out that often overlooked aspect of history.
Sure. You and every other settler looking for any kind of justification for this country’s history.
I think all slavery across all the world is horrible shit.
This is so vile I just gasped involuntarily. I hope someday you feel an ounce of shame, sheesh.
Yeah I’m sure the thousands of people who died in the hulls of slave ships, chained in place in their own piss and shit and sick, hungry and afraid, really appreciated the chance to come to America where the streets are paved with gold. You fucking moron.
The America they were forced to come to was vastly different from the one we live in today. How would that be better than where they already lived? How would someone benefit from being ripped from their family and support system and dropped in an undeveloped country to do forced labor?