“We haven’t attacked Ukraine either. We’re defending our territory”, “Ukraine was ours then [in USSR], too!”, “It [Ukraine] was always part of Russia”, - this Russian woman is a good illustration of how an average Russian person sees the war and Ukraine. It is a mix of propaganda, ignorance and stereotypes, with little independent thinking.
I mean technically it was the other way around. The Kievan Rus was both Ukraine and Russia but the seat of power was in Kyiv
That’s a bit like saying that Germany (one can add France) was part of Netherlands cause Franks.
Wrong too. It’s just that “separatism” is not anything bad.
And here we’d have a huge problem with most Ukrainians as well.
They often think that they themselves are entitled to a separate nation on their own land and so on. But, say, Crimean Greeks, if after Stalin such a thing would remain in sufficient numbers, are not. I’m not talking about Crimean Tatars cause those are not native to Crimea. Or Armenians in Artsakh. Or Abkhazians, or South Ossetians.
They in majority really consider themselves exceptional, like other nations who are somehow great enough to have a state and unlike those who are not. A part of a club, so to say. That chauvinism has to go before I’ll be able to support anything connected to Ukrainian nationalism.
Somehow so many people fail this little test. Russia is the aggressor both now and in 2014 and in 2008. But people in Crimea who’d sincerely want to not be part of Ukraine are in their right (I don’t think they are too numerous now, though), just as Abkhazians (not to ethnically cleanse Mengrel Georgians, but to their own country) and South Ossetians (same limitations) and obviously Artsakh Armenians.
Germany, France, Belgian, all of western europe belong to the Frisians ngl
Eh, how so? Even Flanders isn’t in once Frisian lands. Most of Netherlands and parts of Lower Saxony and Slesvig - yes.