“We believe the prerequisite for meaningful diplomacy and real peace is a stronger Ukraine, capable of deterring and defending against any future aggression,” Blinken said in a speech in Finland, which recently became NATO’s newest member and shares a long border with Russia.

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            pull out of what? we’re not in. we have no troops over there like we did in afganistan.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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              Pull out of the proxy war that US engineered and is currently fuelling. This war will be over as soon as US stops pouring billions into it.

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                “Over” with Putin having gotten what he wants after killing millions of Ukrainians and still occupying their land. So no, fuck Putin and fuck anyone who supports his insane bloody quest for glory.

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                    1 year ago

                    you link to a massive report by - ahem - rand - a dubious source of its own, and don’t even bother to explain your point or who this adds anything to back it up. more like you google your position and just linked the first thing that confirmed your bias. you’ve gone from comparing Ukraine to Afghanistan to moving the goalposts to just calling it a proxy war. your argument keeps falling apart and changing.

                    if you had an argument to make, you would, rather than relying on something you don’t understand and can’t explain to do it or you.