• مهما طال الليل@lemm.ee
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    It is insulting to suggest that this is why people won’t vote for Butcher Biden. Then liberals wonder why Arab and Muslim Americans are disgusted not just by Biden but also by the Democratic base that enables the dehumanization of Palestinians.

    To suggest that our opposition is merely over “stutter” or “dementia” implies that you don’t see Palestinians as people or that their genocide as a valid concern.

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          No, but in 2020 I didn’t vote for Trump.

          Ok. I guess you maybe voted Biden? Did he explicitly stand on not supporting Israel?

          Why did I get a genocide?

          You got a genocide?

          In the short term, genocide is happening because Hamas pissed Israel off one time too many and one time too much. In the long term, the genocide is happening because of historical and deep-rooted emnity between Israel and its neighbouring Arab states. It sucks. There are extremist arseholes on both sides who profit from continued conflict and violence against ‘the other’.

          Regardless, America doesn’t have absolute fiat in the region. Who you vote for makes little difference to what Netanyahu and Haniyeh will choose to do. But Trump is no less an ally of Israel than Biden is.

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            More genocide apologia and bad history. We are clearly on different teams.

            I’m not sure what’s the end goal of denying the genocide or giving the excuse that Israel is a geopolitical ally. Am I supposed to say “oh that makes the genocide okay, I will vote for Biden”? It is just more cruelty and dehumanization.

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              I’m not sure what ‘team’ you think I’m on.

              I agree that a one-sided genocidal war seems to be going on right now and I’m against it.

              What’s your solution?

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              That’s funny. I ask because you have expressed zero understanding of how the US government works multiple times recently. Yet you have no problem screaming the same bs everywhere you can.

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                Are you talking about First Past the Post and Winner Take All?

                I’m still not voting for the lesser evil. I think we are overdue to seriously consider a 3rd party, instead of choosing between two flavours of genocide.

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                  I’m talking about you not understanding how the US government and elections work, and also you acknowledging Trump is worse than Biden. Yet you keep pushing bullshit 24/7 in every post you possibly can.

                  I didn’t know the US had geopolitical relations with Israel.

                  You also have some strange notion that the US has a separate religious court system.

                  Sit down and shut up.

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      And why exactly do you think Trump would do better? I mean besides his most recent opportunistic flip-flop to criticizing the war for taking too long.

      Lessons from Trump’s presidency:

      Though Trump has sent mixed signals about his views of the war, his policies as president unambiguously favored Israel.

      During his presidency, Trump moved the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and recognized Israel’s sovereignty over the Golan Heights, in a reversal of longstanding US policy. He also slashed funding to the UN agency supporting Palestinian refugees and closed the Palestinians’ diplomatic mission in Washington.

      In 2018, he withdrew the US from the Iran nuclear deal, a move cheered by Republicans and Netanyahu. The following year, the Trump administration again broke with decades of precedent to declare that the US no longer considered Israeli settlements in the West Bank a violation of international law. The Biden administration reversed this policy in February

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        Good thing I never voted for Trump. I voted for Biden despite everything I knew about him because some people promised to push him left. Not only Biden hasn’t undone the evils Trump did but he is competing with him on who is the bigger Zionist.

        All the people who have repeated that Biden did a lot of character development and he is no longer the racist guy he was, were either themselves misled or intentionally trying to mislead. He’s the same person who was eager to kill women and children in 1982:

        “Begin said he was shocked at how passionately Biden supported Israel’s invasion when Biden “said he would go even further than Israel, adding that he’d forcefully fend off anyone who sought to invade his country, even if that meant killing women or children.”

        https://theintercept.com/2021/04/27/biden-israeli-invasion-lebanon/

        He also slashed funding to the UN agency supporting Palestinian refugees

        The same thing Biden is doing right now https://www.npr.org/2024/02/18/1232301965/the-u-s-is-barring-funding-to-unrwa-the-only-international-organization-aiding-g and this defunding is based on false allegations https://www.npr.org/2024/04/23/1246613547/unrwa-israel-hamas-gaza-war

        The Biden administration reversed this policy in February

        Yet the settlements are expanding and the US sent more aid than ever to Israel. Until the US conditions aid on the dismantling of illegal settlements in the West Bank and the return of the Golan to Syria, it is all for show.