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      4 months ago

      If you actually cared about defeating Trump then you’d want to replace Biden with someone who can actually win.

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        That’s probably the dumbest thing you’ve said so far in this thread. Of course most people want someone to replace Biden. There are even polls about this. People within the party itself want someone to replace him. But you’re advocating withholding your vote AFTER Biden decides to not leave office. That’s not going to force him to do a thing. It’s like the right wingers buying the product they’re trying to boycott so they can destroy it.

        There is no mechanism by which you can force Biden to quit the race before the vote. Abstaining from voting after he decides to not quit will not harm Biden. Biden’s already said that he’ll be ok if he just “tries his best”. What you’ll actually be doing is harming literally everybody else around you because of your stupid, short sighted, impotent rage.

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          But you’re advocating withholding your vote AFTER Biden decides to not leave office.

          No I’m not! I’m threatening to withhold my vote if Biden is not replaced by the Party at the convention. What he decides doesn’t matter, he doesn’t get to force the Party to nominate him.

          It’s the Party that I’m focused on here.

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            You realize that it’s not just Biden we’re voting for. It’s his entire cabinet. And if you don’t think they can or even have done anything worth reelection- then I guess choosing against your best interest is quite possibly your only option.

            I do hope though, that you find time to enjoy all the benefits that come with losing democracy. Up to and including the continued suffering and genocide of Palestine.

            Because that is really what’s on the table, right? I mean. You’re essentially trying to hold democracy as hostage in order to appear as if you actually give a shit about a place you probably couldn’t have pointed to on a map less than a year ago?

            And even knowing that your bit Donald “finish the job” Trump is going to essential turn Palestine into a crater… you’ll be fine as long as it wasn’t Biden that did it.

            Right?

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              You’re holding me hostage! “Vote the way I tell you or the government is going to kill you.”

              I will not be intimidated.

              I’m trans in a red state. I am going to die if Trump gets elected and if Biden is the nominee Trump will be the President.

              Replacing Biden is now life or death for me.

              So I have to do this. There is no other choice. Shikata ga nai. I’m going to put my fucking life on the line to stop Biden from getting Trump elected, because this is the last chance. The Convention is coming. Do or die.

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                What a fucking weird take.

                “I’m going to die if Trump is elected, so I dare not vote against him!”

                If I didn’t know better, I’d think you were entirely full of shit. Good thing I know better, right?

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                Sorry, no. THIS is the dumbest thing you’ve said in this thread.

                “I’m going to die if this party doesn’t get enough votes!”

                “I’m not going to vote for this party!”

                Good lord.

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                    I do want him to be replaced, actually. I think it’s ludicrous that he decided to run again, and that the party is going along with it. But withholding my vote in the general election when they inevitably line up behind him as a way of showing my dissatisfaction with their decision would be the dumbest thing I could possibly do.

                    You said it yourself: Republicans in power very well could be disastrous for you. The solution, then, is to vote blue, regardless of who they pick. Your plan to not vote in protest is sheer lunacy.