• blazera@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    No, quotes would be the easy way of proving youre not strawmanning. If they said what you claim they said that would be my immediate go to. But my brain is wired to address what people say, not strawmen

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      4 months ago

      Again, it captured what he said. Thus not a strawman. You even have other people pointing that out.

      Just like how you didn’t try to dispute me saying you demanded this or that, when you didn’t say the specific word “demand”. It captured what you said.

      If your brain is so hard coded that you can only see specific words and can’t see what captures what he said, then you have one hell of a hard coding. Frankly, that’s on you.

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        4 months ago

        If it captured what they said you could show what was being captured. Like here, you mentioned drilling, so heres what they actually said “Increased drilling permits” is this what youre capturing in saying theyre demanding the world to change in 2 years, or is that elsewhere in the comment?

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          I addressed each point as they came along, you can follow it crystal clear. You just figured it out, even though it was crystal clear back then and in all my comments since. So no I don’t have to go back and show you again. Look how much fun we’ve had back and forth when you either already knew, or could easily figure it out. So easy that, shocker, you saw what point of his I captured. So at this point I think you are discussing in bad faith and/or trolling.

          So we can say it again since it was so easy you figured it out, yes it captured what they said. You even have other people pointing it out. Just like you didn’t dispute me saying you demanded this or that. Thus not a strawman. Are we having fun?

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            4 months ago

            Man you really cant respond to what someone says can you? So back to this quote "Increased drilling permits”, which is not a demand, is not about the whole world, its a targeted criticism of a specific action Biden took.

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              4 months ago

              Lol he implicitly demanded a (likely notable) decrease in drilling permits. I captured what he said, thus not strawman. Are you really are that hard coded that you can’t see anything except the exact words, so you demand (see? that’s what you’re doing and that’s what I captured) that he said he exact word “demand”. Frankly your hardcoding is on you. I’ll keep pointing out that it’s not a strawman as long as you need.

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                4 months ago

                Its amazing that i specifically said the opposite of what youre strawmanning me with now.

                Im not being cheeky with technicalities like “oh he used a synonym but he didnt use that exact word”

                When you say implicit, understand your strawman is starting there, coming up with something that wasnt alluded to in any way to attack instead of what was actually said or meant.

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                  Where did that quote come from? You didn’t say that to me.

                  So not only do you demand I go back and find quotations for something or other, you demand (yes I’m saying that) that I go hunt through your comments to other people and incorporate them into discussions with you. AND you very, very likely just saw that was said to someone else when you went back to find that.

                  Fucking wow and fucking lol. Yeah you graduated big time to bad faith discussion and/or trolling.

                  And we’re back to: I captured what he said. Thus not a strawman. Because yes it did capture what he said. You even have other people that tell you that (that’s where you went back to find that quote). You really are so hard coded huh that you demand the exact words and exact words only. Again frankly that’s on you.

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                    4 months ago

                    yeah it was someone else. I got confused because of how insistent you’ve been that Im demanding exact wording, when thats the only instance of me mentioning exact wording in the whole conversation. You just coincidentally strawmanned it into existence. It is still proof against what you’re trying to strawman me with.

                    You really are so hard coded huh that you demand the exact words and exact words only.

                    huh, I was expecting at least another post or two before you discarded what both of us now know I said that disproves this strawman.

                    Im gonna go ahead and bring back up you still havent attempted to quote the guy to support your claim. or quote me somewhere saying Im demanding exact wording. anything other than just claiming you’re right without making any attempt to show it.