• toiletobserver@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    The window being all the way down was not a safety issue, but i have zero faith that a court would determine the cops to have used excessive force. I’ll see you all at the next post where nothing changes!

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      8 months ago

      I remember a video of a white woman closing the window into a policeman’s fingers, driving off (over his foot?) getting forced off the road again, screaming insults at the police, hitting them with the car door, before they resort to, iirc, a taser or dragging her out (might be more than one such video)

      So in my mind, that’s kind of the ‘gold standard’ for behaviour which only leads to slow incremental steps in the use of force.

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      8 months ago

      It was the fully tinted window being all the way up that created the safety issue in the officer’s eyes.

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      8 months ago

      when everyone and their mother has a gun in the U.S., and you’re hiding behind heavily tinted windows, then yes, it is a safety issue. It’s not an unreasonable request to keep your window rolled down during a traffic stop.

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        8 months ago

        Don’t take the job if you ain’t willing to take a bullet over a traffic stop. That’s the job. You don’t get to violate rights for your own safety. Your safety is secondary as a cop. If you can’t handle that fact of the position then you would be a shit cop.

        Pizza delivery drivers have a higher chance to get shot than a fucking cop and yet you don’t hear pizza drivers capping people left and right for their own safety. So I don’t wanna hear your bullshit.

        Die for that traffic stop pig. You wanted the badge without the risk.

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          8 months ago

          You don’t get to violate rights for your own safety.

          Are we still talking about the window? How did telling him to roll his opaque window down violate his rights?

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          8 months ago

          it’s actually a bigger safety issue if the cops can order you to lower your window

          most inane take I’ve read about this interaction

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              8 months ago

              If they let you stay in the car, they’ve already decided you probably aren’t going to grab a gun from under the seat. So there’s no safety issue for them.

              Dude, you aren’t making a lick of sense. Google “officer shot during traffic stop” and tell me again that keeping your window rolled down during a traffic stop is unreasonable.

              crack the window as necessary, get out when ordered

              two things he refused to do? What are you talking about, dude?