Well no, its actual fact (as far as currently publicly known). These were not magical devices that only exploded if a terrorist held them. These were devices in the hands of everyone because they were sold and distributed to everyone and they exploded in crowded cities, in stores, wherever they were at the time. We already know for a fact that multiple innocents were killed and just by understanding how an explosive works, we know that even if the devices were held by militants, there would always be more collateral than targeted damage when they explode in the middle of a city. This is simply how the IDF operates, the moral judgement for that you can make yourself.
As a side note, according to the NYT the shell company that made these bombs for israel also sold them to lots of other people. Ofcourse they claim that those ones didnt contain any explosives but we just kind of have to believe that.
These were devices in the hands of everyone because they were sold and distributed to everyone and they exploded in crowded cities, in stores, wherever they were at the time.
If you seriously think that the thousands of wounded are all innocent people then you have not paid any attention to how this whole thing unfolded. They didn’t just blindly sabotage pagers that were sold in stores. Pagers were specifically used by Hezbollah, and Israel caught wind of them ordering replacements, which they managed to intercept. They weren’t pagers distributed to “everyone”, like among innocent civilians that are unrelated to the group.
We already know for a fact that multiple innocents were killed…
“Multiple” - out of the thousands of exploded pagers the casualty rate itself is fairly low since you can only pack so much explosives into a small device like a pager. The majority of “casualties” are severely wounded Hezbollah operatives. You can see in videos that civilians who stand next to the explosives often did not even get wounded because the explosion is so small. That’s why the death rate is actually this low, despite the many hits.
This is simply how the IDF operates, the moral judgement for that you can make yourself.
This wasn’t done by the IDF. Really shows your competency on this field and how much we should value your input on those matters.
As a side note, according to the NYT the shell company that made these bombs for israel also sold them to lots of other people. Ofcourse they claim that those ones didnt contain any explosives but we just kind of have to believe that.
Until those also explode we probably can - but you wouldn’t believe it anyway because “Israel bad”. That’s your whole agenda.
Ad hominem. And no, I don’t conflate anything here.
You not so indirectly called me a hezbollah/hamas sympathizer. You dont get to cry ad hominem.
Yeah, because you’re a terrorist simp who spreads terrorist propaganda.
I assume you are just trolling but could you point out which part of what i wrote is “propaganda”?
Or are you one of those “alternative facts” people?
https://fedia.io/m/creepywikipedia@lemmy.world/t/1219390/2024-Lebanon-pager-explosions-12-people-are-killed-and-more/comment/7383312#entry-comment-7383312
Literally “alternative facts”.
Well no, its actual fact (as far as currently publicly known). These were not magical devices that only exploded if a terrorist held them. These were devices in the hands of everyone because they were sold and distributed to everyone and they exploded in crowded cities, in stores, wherever they were at the time. We already know for a fact that multiple innocents were killed and just by understanding how an explosive works, we know that even if the devices were held by militants, there would always be more collateral than targeted damage when they explode in the middle of a city. This is simply how the IDF operates, the moral judgement for that you can make yourself.
As a side note, according to the NYT the shell company that made these bombs for israel also sold them to lots of other people. Ofcourse they claim that those ones didnt contain any explosives but we just kind of have to believe that.
If you seriously think that the thousands of wounded are all innocent people then you have not paid any attention to how this whole thing unfolded. They didn’t just blindly sabotage pagers that were sold in stores. Pagers were specifically used by Hezbollah, and Israel caught wind of them ordering replacements, which they managed to intercept. They weren’t pagers distributed to “everyone”, like among innocent civilians that are unrelated to the group.
“Multiple” - out of the thousands of exploded pagers the casualty rate itself is fairly low since you can only pack so much explosives into a small device like a pager. The majority of “casualties” are severely wounded Hezbollah operatives. You can see in videos that civilians who stand next to the explosives often did not even get wounded because the explosion is so small. That’s why the death rate is actually this low, despite the many hits.
This wasn’t done by the IDF. Really shows your competency on this field and how much we should value your input on those matters.
Until those also explode we probably can - but you wouldn’t believe it anyway because “Israel bad”. That’s your whole agenda.