• suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml
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    29 days ago

    No, it’s disingenuous to count the time a program was, by design, inoperable as functional because it existed on paper.

    When does the dam exist? On the day the blueprints are drawn up or on the day it starts filling with water?

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      29 days ago

      The word I would contest is “inoperable.”

      The system is more than just a retrospective yes or no after 10 years. You have to work with the DoEd to submit paperwork from your employer to make sure they qualify. You have to work with the DoEd to make sure the type of payments or deferments you’re doing are qualified. Etc.

      There have been government employees actively working with people on this for the whole of the 17 years. This is a program that has, in fact, “been around for a long time” in a meaningful way.

      Yes, the Trump Administration did a good awful job in trying to intentionally eff it up. But people were in fact able to get through it.

      Right now, I know several people who are just a few payments away from being able to qualify, but can’t due to payment freezes with the Mohela cutover and all the legal stuff going on with it. Which, to be clear, I’m not blaming on the Biden administration. But it isn’t like the program has made much meaningful headway in the past 4 years either.

      And it seems like this is the easier battle to win than general student loan forgiveness. Expand PSLF. Reduce the term to 5 years and reduce the administrative burdens and overhead. Allow a wider range of zero-cost-payment deferments to count as “qualified payments” towards the total payment number needed.

      These would be expansions on policy that have been unchallenged for the past 17 years. That passed through both houses of Congress. This is an easy win that would help ease the burden of millions of Americans. Especially teachers who are cripplingly underpaid and often require a masters degree.

      • Agreed. If talking about “when the blueprints are drawn up” then 17 is way too short as it’d been in the works and planned for even longer. 17 years ago is when things started operating, even if the first payouts didn’t happen for another ten years.