“every accusation a confession” is a common refrain to describe conservative behavior
Point 1: You accuse people of avoiding questions (they didn’t), it’s because you avoid questions. The question you avoided
I don’t see them arguing to remove all doners and thus win without them?
The question you asked of them was how to win without donors. Not less donors.
Would you like me to extend to you the courtesy you denied me when accusing me of building a strawman. That “without” is an extention of “fewer” the same way “most” is an extention of “more”. But that would take admitting they did, in fact, answer your question. Would you like to admit that? If so I’m good, that was all I wanted to highlight to you in the first place.
Point 2: you accuse people of building strawmen, I didn’t, it’s because you build strawmen. See above.
Regarding the pivot from “money” to “donors”: did democrats have less donors this election? Just as an aside, what is it that these donors donate, what is it that citizens united allowed these donors to donate, that isn’t money. Donors=money
Ignore people all you want but they, and reality, are clearly telling you that optimising for donations/money doesn’t work.
politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other. - Oscar Ameringer
Democrats are too focused on the latter, because reasons explained to you, and thus lost due to the former.
It seems our impasse is that’s I’ve understood, and stated as such, your argument to be “more money, more better” which is counterfactual to this election. You reply
nuh uh, my argument is [defines “more” or uses the word “more”] [synonym for “money” or uses the word money], more better.
I don’t think I can break through that level of double think.
Democrats are too focused on the latter, because reasons explained to you, and thus lost due to the former.
How are you quantifying how focused they are? How do you know they lost due to the former? The likely answer is you are making assumptions based off your feelings.
It seems our impasse is that’s I’ve understood, and stated as such, your argument to be “more money, more better” which is counterfactual to this election.
Again I have to point out that I haven’t made an argument. I’ve just asked a question to someone other than you and you felt the need to insert yourself to argue semantics while avoiding the question you responded to.
I don’t think I can break through that level of double think.
You’re literally quoting something that was never said.
Point 1, exactly my pount, that’s exactly what you did. I demonstrated that to you and now we agree. You’ll notice I keep grounding us in the comments under discussion: “I think your argument is this” and “how does that have relevance to the original comment”. Every accusation is a confession.
Point 2, exactly what you did when you tried labeling my argument a strawman. Every accusation is a confession.
Who is talking about ignoring people.
Me, continually about you. You ignored the original answer to your question. You ignore my explanation to why it’s a valid answer. You ignore my pointing out you ignoring people to ask who’s ignoring people.
How are you quantifying[…]
You argue semantics to steer the conversation away from the original question.
“every accusation a confession” is a common refrain to describe conservative behavior
Point 1: You accuse people of avoiding questions (they didn’t), it’s because you avoid questions. The question you avoided
The question you asked of them was how to win without donors. Not less donors.
Would you like me to extend to you the courtesy you denied me when accusing me of building a strawman. That “without” is an extention of “fewer” the same way “most” is an extention of “more”. But that would take admitting they did, in fact, answer your question. Would you like to admit that? If so I’m good, that was all I wanted to highlight to you in the first place.
Point 2: you accuse people of building strawmen, I didn’t, it’s because you build strawmen. See above.
Regarding the pivot from “money” to “donors”: did democrats have less donors this election? Just as an aside, what is it that these donors donate, what is it that citizens united allowed these donors to donate, that isn’t money. Donors=money
Ignore people all you want but they, and reality, are clearly telling you that optimising for donations/money doesn’t work.
Democrats are too focused on the latter, because reasons explained to you, and thus lost due to the former.
It seems our impasse is that’s I’ve understood, and stated as such, your argument to be “more money, more better” which is counterfactual to this election. You reply
I don’t think I can break through that level of double think.
Point 1: you argue semantics to steer the conversation away from the original question.
Point 2: you nitpicking semantics is not me building a straw man.
Who is talking about ignoring people or optimizing for donations? Seems like you are refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion.
How are you quantifying how focused they are? How do you know they lost due to the former? The likely answer is you are making assumptions based off your feelings.
Again I have to point out that I haven’t made an argument. I’ve just asked a question to someone other than you and you felt the need to insert yourself to argue semantics while avoiding the question you responded to.
You’re literally quoting something that was never said.
Point 1, exactly my pount, that’s exactly what you did. I demonstrated that to you and now we agree. You’ll notice I keep grounding us in the comments under discussion: “I think your argument is this” and “how does that have relevance to the original comment”. Every accusation is a confession.
Point 2, exactly what you did when you tried labeling my argument a strawman. Every accusation is a confession.
Me, continually about you. You ignored the original answer to your question. You ignore my explanation to why it’s a valid answer. You ignore my pointing out you ignoring people to ask who’s ignoring people.
You argue semantics to steer the conversation away from the original question.
1 you haven’t until now pointed out that you havent made an arguement. 2 it is absurd to do so. 3 you are a [meme]https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/JAQ_off
It’s a summary, I made that quite plain.