• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    .46% of general voters? So 1/4 of our loss margin? That’s not nothing.

    Don’t get me wrong. The fall into fascism is primarily on white America. The minority vote is overwhelmingly what has kept us from fascism in my lifetime. That minority support for fascism increased in this election is fucking insane and notable.

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      16 hours ago

      That .46% still represents individuals who voted Democrat in the primary, but indicated non-commitment to any candidate as a way to voice their positions.

      You cannot in sound faith compare the uncommitted turnout to the general loss margin and draw conclusions without further data, though I respect the inquisitive approach in doing so.

      It is good to note the increase, as you have here. To use the increase as an attack or blame, as others have elsewhere, is ignorant and bigoted.

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        You cannot in sound faith compare the uncommitted turnout to the general loss margin and draw conclusions without further data

        Likewise, you cannot in sound faith equivocate people’s general election votes with people’s votes in the Democratic primary.

        People are complaining about how others voted in the general election, not about them voting uncommitted in the primary. I, for example, am complaining about people’s general election votes, but I’m also part of that small fraction who voted uncommitted in the Democratic primary. Of course, I’m not bringing race into it - I’m complaining about everyone who didn’t do the most effective thing to prevent Trump’s election.

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        16 hours ago

        You cannot in sound faith compare the uncommitted turnout to the general loss margin and draw conclusions without further data, though I respect the inquisitive approach in doing so.

        Then what conclusion is meant to be drawn in this meme by bringing that data point up?

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          16 hours ago

          To expose the hypocrisy in people group A (white voters) getting less attack and blame than people group B (Arab American voters et al), despite being two orders of magnitude larger.

          In other words, to expose leftist infighting that disproportionately benefits the status quo and could lead to unjustified xenophobic violence. Thanks for your question. :)

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            16 hours ago

            I mean, at this point, most of us talking about politics already know that the majority of white folk in the US are fascist (or, in terms the mainstream media prefers to use, ‘Republican’). That’s like talking about the sky being blue. No one is talking about the white vote because we already expected the majority to vote for the oppression of minority groups, like they have in the past (at minimum) 10 presidential elections. That minority groups have increased their support for the oppression of minority groups is much more noteworthy.

            It is good to note the increase, as you have here. To use the increase as an attack or blame, as others have elsewhere, is ignorant and bigoted.

            Is using it as an example of leopards eating peoples’ faces an attack or blame, just to clarify?

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              16 hours ago

              I don’t know what that leopards thing is, or after googling, care.

              An entirely different matter is “solidarity is over/I have no more sympathy for X ethnic group/I hope you suffer X hate crime.” Very real and material statements I have seen.

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                16 hours ago

                I don’t know what that leopards thing is, or after googling, care.

                People who support something bad being surprised when that bad thing happens to them.

                An entirely different matter is “solidarity is over/I have no more sympathy for X ethnic group/I hope you suffer X hate crime.” Very real and material statements I have seen.

                Then we’re in agreement there. There’s no excuse for that.

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        You’re forgetting that this group deliveredMI because of their stunt. Dearborn has the largest concentraction of Arabs ooutside the Middle East. Note Talib won her seat easily in contrast to Harris despite both being Democrats. It’s not bigotry, it’s just math

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          I am in fact not forgetting about Michigan.

          https://www.270towin.com/ Here is an interactive map of the 2024 election. If you can use your math to get it to show a Harris win by just switching Michigan, I will change my position. 😄

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            13 hours ago

            seeing an awful lot of downvotes in ratio to a dearth of screenshots proving me wrong 😉 it’s okay to be misinformed; take your time to learn and grow ❤️