Yep. The founding fathers were extremely anti-government. Jefferson famously supported Shay’s Rebellion; I think it’s literally true that if they were around today, most of them would advocate for revolution, not protest. I think in their farmer-centric view, they would view the vast majority of modern Americans as de facto slaves, too timid to end their slavery.
It’s not just ancient history, either. Something changed after the 80s, but as recently as one generation ago a lot of classically American things like “Rambo” and Bruce “Born in the USA” Springsteen actually got popular specifically because they were expressions of pure disgust at the American system. John Rambo was a homeless, psychologically destroyed veteran, abused by corrupt police, who literally fights a guerrilla war against the system. The end of the movie, if you haven’t seen it, is him breaking down in a babbling, hysterical flashback to his traumatic experiences from the war, and then presumably getting arrested. There’s no victory, and nothing good about the America that’s represented, at the beginning, middle, or end. That’s what resonated with people and elevated it to blockbuster status.
The enemy recast Rambo and “Born in the USA” as something else, so successfully that the origin is mostly erased. But the origin that America got so fiercely behind was fundamentally “anti-American,” if you want to define that as meaning “against the system.”
Yep. The founding fathers were extremely anti-government. Jefferson famously supported Shay’s Rebellion; I think it’s literally true that if they were around today, most of them would advocate for revolution, not protest. I think in their farmer-centric view, they would view the vast majority of modern Americans as de facto slaves, too timid to end their slavery.
It’s not just ancient history, either. Something changed after the 80s, but as recently as one generation ago a lot of classically American things like “Rambo” and Bruce “Born in the USA” Springsteen actually got popular specifically because they were expressions of pure disgust at the American system. John Rambo was a homeless, psychologically destroyed veteran, abused by corrupt police, who literally fights a guerrilla war against the system. The end of the movie, if you haven’t seen it, is him breaking down in a babbling, hysterical flashback to his traumatic experiences from the war, and then presumably getting arrested. There’s no victory, and nothing good about the America that’s represented, at the beginning, middle, or end. That’s what resonated with people and elevated it to blockbuster status.
The enemy recast Rambo and “Born in the USA” as something else, so successfully that the origin is mostly erased. But the origin that America got so fiercely behind was fundamentally “anti-American,” if you want to define that as meaning “against the system.”