President says ‘epidemic of gun violence is tearing our communities apart’ after mass shootings in Philadelphia, Fort Worth, Baltimore and Chicago

  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    If one of my family or friends shot themself or was shot due to the negligence of a “responsible gun owner”, I would consider that important.

    • Strangle@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      12
      ·
      1 year ago

      Accidents are different than intentional suicide.

      Does it matter that Kurt contain shot himself in the head any more than layne Staley OD’d on heroin? No, it doesn’t.

      Take the shotgun away and contain would just find another way to kill himself

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        I’d say that the immediate effectiveness of a shotgun blast to the head means that suicide by firearm is harder to save someone from than from an overdose. Narcan is ineffective against buckshot.

        • Strangle@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          10
          ·
          1 year ago

          You’re missing the point. He wanted to die. He will find a way. You can ‘save’ him only so many times before he succeeds.

          Also, if someone wants to die, who are you to tell them they aren’t allowed?

          • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            If Cobain was saved from an overdose and received the help he needed, who knows what could have happened? A talented influential musician and an outspoken supporter of gay rights might still be with us. Instead he had access to a shotgun.