Summary

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is organizing grassroots events to oppose Trump’s policies, arguing that “Trumpism does not believe in democracy.”

In an op-ed, Sanders criticized Trump’s ties to Elon Musk, federal budget cuts, and media influence, warning of authoritarianism.

He cited Trump’s recent post likening himself to Napoleon and accused him of disregarding the rule of law.

The White House dismissed Sanders’ concerns, accusing Democrats of authoritarian tactics.

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      It must be repeated and repeated and repeated and repeated and repeated until the message gets through their thick stubborn skulls. It’s how MAGA indoctrinated them in the first place and the only way to deprogram them.

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        Sadly they are as likely to believe the dems as much as the dems will believe the reps. The only way the magats will come to believe is when each and every single one of them start to suffer, until then it is “someone else that is being hurt, not me!” Once it finally comes home they will see, but by then it may be too late.

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          If you keep repeating something over and over again people on average are more likely to believe it, especially if it’s multiple people all repeating the same point. It’s part of social psychology: conformity and is the basis of psychological warfare.

          Bannon and Cambridge Analytica used this to great effect via social media. Now the bosses of social media have fallen in line behind trump, this message and similar ones MUST be repeated.

          This isn’t a debate where whomever has the best standing with the audience or the best argument will win.

          This is a shouting contest.

          Every 10 second lie they spout will take 1 minute to debunk. The only way to win is to repeatedly shout a 10 second retort, finishing with “read this!” and SHOVE a list of evidence in their face.

          They won’t look at the list for the first two dozen times, but by the third or fourth dozen they’ll take a look, that’s all we can do via the soap box.

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            I didn’t poo-poo the idea, it is just going to take a lot of effort to get through to them. Please, keep trying, all of you (I will be dealing with something similar as a “Temu Trump” is trying to run/ruin our country as well and he has the 3 word method down, good thing Trudeau is gone and will hopefully be replaced by someone I can support).

            It is just infuriating every time I check r/republican and they are stating Trumps words as fact though they have already seen that is not the case, hence why I said they would each need to suffer to see this. “Fuck you, got mine” is very prevalent down there and to a lesser degree up here as well. (I check every so often to see just how insane it is getting over there)

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        I simply wonder what’s happening and expressing my frustration.

        No question - it’s good he is mobilizing people. Organization is key, and to me it looks like it’s currently lacking. I really hope Sanders can change this.

        It has been damn obvious and yet way too many people voted Trump. And, come on, it was clear Elon would be there as well. From outside the US it’s hard to understand why. It leaves me with two explanations, both of which I don’t like: either people were misinformed and/or did not understand what is going on, or they did really want it.

        Maybe you can help me understand.

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        How is this doing something? he’s been bloviating for years about this and things have only gotten worse.

        Where’s the action?!

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              You can’t get to things like general strikes if you don’t start by organizing and educating people. Calling for a sudden and mass uprising of public action with no base to support it is just a wild fantasy. How are you even going to make it happen? Share some memes on BlueSky? Organized resistance needs organized people.

              I fully believe that it will take a general strike, and perhaps more than that to avert fascism in the US, and every day I pray that it happens because my country is fucked if it doesn’t. But I don’t for a second believe that you have a realistic plan to get there when all you can think to do is dismiss the people doing the hard work of getting the public united, educated and organized.

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                That’s why I’m saying bernie should be calling for it and leading the organization. He has the social clout and following. Many disillusioned with him (myself included) would see this as an actual action instead of the equivalent of just another sternly worded letter which is all the democrats and Bernie seem to be capable of doing for most of the past decade.

                And fuck Bluesky. I’m not moving over to another monopoly. I never liked Twitter to begin with I don’t see why I’d like Bluesky even if it was genuinely defederated and not a corporate owned imitation of the fediverse.

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                  You mean he should be saying something like this?

                  Trumpism will not be defeated by politicians inside the DC beltway. It will only be defeated by millions of Americans, in every state in this country, coming together in a strong, grassroots movement which says no to oligarchy, no to authoritarianism, no to kleptocracy, no to massive cuts in programs that working people desperately need, no to huge tax breaks for the richest people in our country.

                  Oh, wait that’s a direct quote from Bernie, discussing what he’s doing right now.

                  https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/19/trumpism-bernie-sanders

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                    A bunch of vague mealymouthed progressive feel good bullshit? He’s been saying the same shit for decades.

                    All talk. Let’s see the walk. Organize with the labor unions and call for a general strike directly and in no uncertain terms. Not that say nothing garbage.

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      Not to the MAGA-nation. Or maybe they are aware and just flat out supporting it. Not sure which is worst. Hm.

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        I bet that what we see here is partly the work of the worlds largest propaganda machine. I’d like to believe that misinformation was the reason for them supporting Trump. So yes, properly informing people could help. But I’m worried that the Trumpian shit-show clogged some brains. What to believe in a world made of “fake news”?