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    I selfhost and use mostly FOSS and have ways of blocking 99% of ads and locally control all my IoT so if you’re willing to learn then you don’t have to feel that way. Because I feel in full control and in harmony with everything.

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      Sure, Jan. I guess you’re not using a web browser to post this? Not using an app, because that would mean having an Android or Apple phone?

      I think you underestimate just how shitty everything now is, even if you’re putting a massive effort in by using almost exclusively FOSS and maintaining a stack of ad blockers.

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        My phone is running LineageOS without GAPPS. I use Firefox but with the advent of this news, will be changing to more hardened versions of it. I spend no effort maintaining my ad blockers past the initial setup, the fact that you have no idea how much work is involved shows that you have no idea what you are talking about… you are a smoke blower.

        I’m more than happy to go back and forth with you and give you specifics to show just how little you know, but I’m curious. Why did my comment seemingly irk you? Do you feel insecure because are lazy and adopted a defeatist attitude to justify your laziness and/or lack of knowledge? Because it is 100% possible to control your devices and data, honestly, you’re probably just kinda dumb buddy. But again, if you want to learn, I’ll happily educate you on specifics.

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          So, you use a browser that’s vulnerable to enshittification, because there’s no way to avoid this. There are only 3 companies working on browser engines, only 2 work on non-mac platforms, and both depend on advertising. Sorry you didn’t realize that.

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            You realize that Firefox and Chromium are open source and there are hardened versions that have the “enshitification” aspects removed from them, right? How fucking slow are you buddy, because that’s the great thing about FOSS… if we don’t like something in a project, we fork it. Let me know if you would like me to continue schooling you.

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              Firefox and Chromium are open source, but virtually everybody working on them is employed by Google or Mozilla.

              If you look at the changelogs and dev blogs of all the various forked versions of those projects, what you’ll see is that the devs spend basically all their time trying to keep up with all the changes coming out of Google/Mozilla and then trying to find out how to re-integrate the tweaks they’ve developed that makes their version different – which is normally just applying a skin, or a plugin, or removing something they consider a misfeature.

              Let me know if you would like me to continue schooling you.

              Oh, I wasn’t aware you’d started. You must be a terrible teacher.

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                Firefox and Chromium are open source, but virtually everybody working on them is employed by Google or Mozilla.

                If you look at the changelogs and dev blogs of all the various forked versions of those projects, what you’ll see is that the devs spend basically all their time trying to keep up with all the changes coming out of Google/Mozilla and then trying to find out how to re-integrate the tweaks they’ve developed that makes their version different – which is normally just applying a skin, or a plugin, or removing something they consider a misfeature.

                Lmao, no… browsers like LibreWolf have no issues keeping up with updates.

                Oh, I wasn’t aware you’d started. You must be a terrible teacher.

                That’s because you keep moving goalposts so you don’t have to face the reality that you’re a moron that’s blowing smoke. You stated, “even if you’re putting a massive effort in by using almost exclusively FOSS and maintaining a stack of ad blockers.” That gave it away. With that statement, I know, you’re an idiot and have nooooooooooooo fucking clue how this shit works. And I called you out there… and you conveniently ignored that and changed the subject. So do you want me to explain how easy it is to setup adblocking that requires no maintenance? And then will you admit that you are wrong? Because again, it doesn’t require any maintenance whatsoever… I’ll teach you buddy, don’t worry, no cost to you.

                Also let’s look at my initial claim, “I selfhost and use mostly FOSS and have ways of blocking 99% of ads and locally control all my IoT so if you’re willing to learn then you don’t have to feel that way. Because I feel in full control and in harmony with everything.”

                Two things. 1) I said mostly FOSS, 2) I do feel in harmony with the amount of control and customization I have over my devices which was in response to someone feeling the opposite. You’ve not said anything to counter this. I can easily go through my entire stack on every platform if you are actually interested in learning how these things work. But if not, I will continue to make fun of you for being dumb, I don’t care either way. You’re entertaining me.