• warm
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    Trying to fight piracy like this is just an endless game of whack-a-mole. Countries should not be wasting time with laws, let the corporations suffer until they provide a better product.

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    Sucks if you’re in France. For the rest of us it should be interesting to see which of these VPN providers choose to comply by geo-blocking France, which choose to cut any ties they have with France and otherwise ignore the order, and which to abandon their mission and become agents of censorship on behalf of France.

    • @Xanza@lemm.ee
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      85 months ago
      1. They will comply
      2. The rest of us won’t be far behind

      They stand to lose a good portion of their business if they can’t service France. They’ll comply.

      • @nintendiator@feddit.cl
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        115 months ago

        Malicious compliance could be of help? For example, blocking the streaming sites for their endpoints that are local to France, if any?

        • @Xanza@lemm.ee
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          65 months ago

          Likely. What I said has more to do with “we’re next.” If this is successful in France, other countries will follow suit or at the very least get pressure from the IP lobby to follow.

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          Population of France is 66.6 (lol) million people. If even 1% use VPNs that’s a potential market of 666,000 users. At ~$5/mo per user that’s a prospectus of $40 million annually. If I were a VPN provider I would absolutely want a piece of that pie rather than not, and all’s they have to do is follow the law–exactly as they have been this entire time…

          So yeah, I absolutely think they’re going to comply.

          • 52fighters
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            55 months ago

            How much of the VPN market goes away after enforcing this law?

          • NuraShiny [any]
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            The population of just Europe, Canada and the USA is a combined is over 1 billion. I would say those are the most common countries where people pay for VPNs.

            Let’s say one billion flat minus France. If just 1% of those people subscribe to a VPN at 5$/month, that’s 1.2 billion dollars annually.

            Who would you rather alienate, assuming they would have to alienate one or the other?

            The could also just see where you are connecting from and disable this feature for just french connections. Steam can do it for NSFW games in Germany.

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              The population of just Europe, Canada and the USA is a combined is over 1 billion.

              Congratulations? This has absolutely nothing at all to do with what I’ve said. Not even tangentially. I’m expressly and singularly speaking of France here. EU, Canada and the US combined populations change nothing about what I’ve said at all…

              You look to be fighting a wet paper bag here… Sad to see honestly.

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                I am comparing customer bases. It really shouldn’t be that difficult to understand that.

                Also…fighting a wet paper bag? That’s the best you got?

      • DebatableRaccoon
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        65 months ago

        They stand to lose a lot more business if they bend the knee. What person is going to use a hamstringed VPN? It almost completely misses the point of having one.

      • Kami
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        25 months ago

        I am sorry your VPN provider sucks so much that you are sure of something that hasn’t even happened yet. Time to switch to a good one, am I right?

  • @onlinepersona@programming.dev
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    Don’t want this to happen? Vote for a left wing party in your area or nationally. Change won’t be immediate, but every vote counts. The right wingers are friends of business and unfettered capitalism. They will let this happen time and time again.

    Anti Commercial-AI license

    • @nfreak@lemmy.ml
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      85 months ago

      And get invested in local movements for actual left representation, especially in the US where we’re stuck with 2 far right parties.

    • Night Monkey
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      Even when the so-called left wingers were in charge, they didn’t do Jack squat. They’re both worthless

        • Night Monkey
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          Their antics are theater. Have you not figured this out yet? They pretend to be on opposite teams.

    • Venia Silente
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      If you are going to vote, remember that that is only half of the work. The other half is having a guillotine sharpened and ready, to incentivize those who say to be an alternative to actually follow up on their word.