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    Definitely not massively polluting megacorps. Nope, it’s definitely billions of poor people eating grain.

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    I found this article quite interesting as it adds some much-needed context to the original.

    It’s mostly saying that, on a per-calorie basis, rice produces notably more methane compared to most other grains but still very much less than animal-agriculture (specifically, cows).

    Realistically, rice will continue to be needed as a staple food in many places so it can’t be broadly eliminated as a food source. Most consumers who are trying to reduce emissions will be better off looking for ways to reduce their consumption of meat and dairy as it will have a bigger impact.

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    Capitalists: Climate change is your fault and here’s an exhaustive list of every little thing a normal person does and how it negatively impacts the environment

    You: fails to either learn to photosynthesize, or starve to death

    Capitalists: Ugh, I can’t believe you would do this to the environment! This is all your fault!

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      Here it is, blaming emissions on capitalism again though plenty of non capitalist societies were just as poor for the environment within the context of their time. Just because in your preferred system you think you could force through the changes you want does not mean that that is a better system. What makes you think you will be in power or in the majority? If your preferred system is decentralized, that requires a lot of education, the same type that could literally solve this issue with the current system. If your system only works with massive amounts of education and trust, it cannot scale.

      Maybe we should focus on the task at hand instead of trying to focus on radical change that will likely make the problem much worse before it gets better. You are literally making the situation worse because you are turning people against actual progress over your ideology.

      Emissions based regulations are completely achievable and capitalist. It’s called addressing an externality. Additionally, avoiding the tragedy of the commons requires international treaties which take time, economic alignment, and robust demand on all sides.

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        Emissions based regulations are completely achievable and capitalist

        Yes, that’s my whole point. They put the blame on us to distract us from enacting regulations with teeth. I’m not a hardcore socialist, just don’t like billionaires and companies lobbying to keep laws in their favor while simultaneously blaming us for everything.

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          But then those are not capitalists. That’s just anti environmentalism. Your language does not win you allies.

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        There’s a fundamental contradiction between the capitalist reach for yield and environmental regulations.

        In the long run, not having environmental regulations is bad for the market. In the short run, though, businesses can make a lot of money very quickly when they’re not regulated. This tension has lead to deadlock in every capitalist nation on Earth and it’s not getting better.

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          We may disagree on these points but it should be obvious that there’s plenty of opposition to your preferred system in the majority of the modern world. That’s why insisting on radical change as a precursor to action is counter productive to actual mitigation of climate effects. Even if you are right about the system being less effective at environmentalism, you are hiring the efforts to do something about the issue now and drastic action is needed.

          That same tension existed in regards to national parks, CFCs, water management, wildlife management, waste management, and many other issues. What makes you think climate is any different other than bigger?

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            That same tension existed in regards to national parks, CFCs, water management, wildlife management, waste management, and many other issues. What makes you think climate is any different other than bigger?

            All of that was implemented while the USSR was still around. Without the boogyman around to scare capitalists into reforming themselves and implementing sustainable business practices, they won’t do it. That’s why we’ve been seeing all those Cold War era reforms eroded one after another, there’s just no need to placate the masses.

            Maybe climate change can be the boogyman that the USSR was. It doesn’t seem to be working, though.

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              I don’t think it was the USSR that was the motivation behind it, at least the ones during that period. It might’ve been more the hatred of cities, cancer, disease, and pests respectively. I will admit, giving the USSR credit for the environmental movement in the US is a creative and new one for me. You are off by about 25 years there for the beginning but it’s close.

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                The USSR deserves credit for pretty much every good idea the US has ever had since the New Deal.

                And now that the USSR is gone, everything good the US has ever done is being eroded by fascists.

                Makes you think!

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                  No, that was me. I take credit for it all. No autonomy for anyone.

                  Ideas are great. Execution begets prosperity.

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    I exchange the rice for lo mein every single time.

    If I’m going to eat a bunch of carbs, they should at least taste good. I live in an Asian neighborhood so I eat a lot of Asian food; still don’t understand the obsession with rice.

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    Yes everything is climate change

    Except when the elites do it, they can use private jets, hot water, gas, eat what they want and do what they want without consequences

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-gates-private-jet-doesnt-make-him-hypocrite-because-he-invests-billions-into-climate-change/#:~:text=Gates responded%2C "Yeah.,use plant-based aviation fuel.

    But what you do will never be enough

    Anyone who thinks this shit makes a difference and ignoring what China is doing on the daily are just virtue signaling fools

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    Hahah, that’s such a smooth reply tweet, I love when people use “bad english” on purpose. Is like a pair of jeans that are artificially weathered to make them look more beautiful. Interestingly, I feel like you can do it wrong and have actual bad “bad english”

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    This newspaper is from my country.

    It was so badly run by some nepo hire that it went non profit.

    A newspaper went non profit.