Rule of law is obviously sympathetic to Hamas.

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    Louder for the people in the back. All religion needs to go. That bullshit is holding humanity back so much.

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      you’re just voicing another ideology that wants to exterminate others. Religion is your whipping boy, and you’re lying to yourself if you think that getting rid of religion fixes the problem.

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        Bro, getting rid of religion with solve a fuck load of problems considering that people would not fucking use it to justify every goddamn thing they do that is immoral, step off weirdo, I’m not talking about murdering anybody holy shit. That is some textbook weird fucking projection my guy, what’s going on in your life that you have such a weird outlook on things

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          Just so you know – Ataturk tried to secularize a whole nation in the early 1920s, and though it persisted for a few decades, it came back HARD in 1980s and stepped up majorly in the 50 years since then.

          It turns out that suppressing cultural beliefs that have persisted for millennia can and will breed resentment.

          Give people the option to educate themselves out of the shackles of religion, but do not force them to do it out of your own sense of justice.

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          No, it won’t since the problems you think it will. You are misidentifying the problem as being religion. …but the problem is human, and psychological in nature - and, because you can’t see that, you’re just as susceptible to it as any other sot out there, drunk on the idea that you’ve got this one weird trick that solves the issue, and doesn’t involve you sorting your own shit out.

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          Look I hate religion as much as any reddit atheist but even if you could magically snap your fingers and remove religion from the world absolutely nothing would change. You didn’t remove evil, just one of its many, many justifications. If Israel wasn’t Jewish, they’d argue that they’re - oh wait they already claim themselves as their own race of people. If pedophiles weren’t priests they’d argue that - oh wait they already do argue that teenagers are biologically prime birthing age. You can remove all the beaches in the world and the ocean wouldn’t grow.

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            I think wildly different. Getting rid of religion would mean people wouldn’t be getting primed when they were young to believe in stupid spirits and magical fucking thinking. Also the concentration of power in any power structure is just fucked it’s always going to invite unsavory characters

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              You think that preventing exposure to problematic concept prevents infection. you’re right, in the short term. But in the long term, you destroy collective immunity to the concept.

              Let it live, fight it when you have to, but don’t think you can eradicate it. It’s to be learned from, not simply destroyed. Otherwise, the experience is wasted, only to be repeated by the next generation.

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              A) yeah bro, without religion kids would engage in far less magical thinking.

              B) then your problem is power structures, not religion.

              You’re literally doing magical thinking. You think turning off a faucet will stop your house from flooding. You’re the guy that shills for electric cars when our roads are made from oil. Religion literally is your Devil. I promise you, people never needed religion to be shitty, and we have a million justifications if it somehow falls.

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              A) yeah bro, without religion kids would engage in far less magical thinking.

              B) then your problem is power structures, not religion.

              You’re literally doing magical thinking. You think turning off a faucet will stop your house from flooding. You’re the guy that shills for electric cars when our roads are made from oil. Religion literally is your Devil. I promise you, people never needed religion to be shitty, and we have a million justifications if it somehow falls.