Zohran Mamdani has won the race for New York City mayor, according to Decision Desk HQ, ushering in a new era of progressive politics in the city and reigniting the debate over the Democratic Party’s future.
Mamdani, a 34-year-old democratic socialist, is poised to become the first millennial and first Muslim to lead New York City, after a campaign that pulled off one of the most stunning political upsets in recent memory. He defeated former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who mounted a long-shot independent bid after losing to Mamdani in the Democratic primary, and Republican Curtis Sliwa in his bid to succeed Mayor Eric Adams.
Mamdani focused heavily on affordability, pledging to freeze rent, establish city-owned grocery stores and make buses free for riders. He quickly became a progressive icon as well as a polarizing figure within the party over his positions, so much so that it divided prominent New York Democratic leadership over whether to endorse him.
So you’re saying Democrats need to move politically to the right and promote the status quo, to appeal more to centrist voters?
I’m not them but I think there can be a difference in how we appear and what battles we choose vs. what we actually do when in office.
If every time someone brought a Democrat on any show - anywhere - and they just ignored the host and said “who cares, look how bad the fucking economy is”
And that was the only message. Nothing about social issues.
We’d be drowning in votes.
Guess how Dems won in Virginia…
Stop being so fucking simplistic. It’s a huge country and individual approaches need to be geared to what will best work in specific areas.
Feel like your response to my, admittedly facetious, comment is overly aggressive. Obviously tactics need to be geared towards the voters in a given area/election, but the original joke I responded to is that this seems like an obvious tactic that is not utilised nearly enough, and I agree with and was building on that.
none of mamdanis campaign catered to right wing ideas.
No, the comment I replied to suggested acknowledging and addressing voters’ concerns, I sarcastically suggested the opposite.
Yeah, I read it as like:
“Huh, building our homes out of heavier, tougher bricks is a great way to prevent our houses from burning down.”
“Ah, I see! So we should build our houses out of twice as much wood!”
Kinda related to the trope “comically missing the point”, which, as you say, was the intent.
The unfortunate trouble with written communication, where you can’t pick up on tone as easily. I’m not a fan of using /s, as I think it takes away from the comment, but I can see how it can be helpful to avoid misunderstandings.
Sadly, I don’t think that’s very obvious to many people around these parts. It’s full of uncompromising ideologues, the sort that put us in this mess in the first place.
I’m not downplaying Mamdani’s win. They will surely downplay the victory in Virginia.
I’m being heavily downvoted for making an objectively sensible statement based on the available evidence. We need to STOP dividing the party.
No, you’re being rude and antagonistic to your supposed allies.
And you’re the one here dividing them. People are happy someone won the election, and saying this helps future elections, and you seem offended people are happy about this.
No, people are happy we won THIS election, and so am I. I’m also happy we won in VA. Are you? Or do you deny that the centrist approach can ever work?
All the “establishment Dems” bullshit is how we have Trump again.
Probably. I didn’t pay attention to VA, just my state ballot and NYC.
Correct, they lost to the biggest moron twice.
I might hazard to guess that some of the down votes are because of the aggressive tone you took, it doesn’t exactly invite a friendly discussion. I appreciate that politics are a charged subject at the best of times, but I think the anger needs to be channelled more effectively, maybe now more than ever. Which is to say that I fully agree with your statement about needing to avoid division.
No, it the content. People in here will downplay VA when both are important wins. I don’t take this cutthroat view, I’m happy to get wins where we can. I’m tire of people here refusing to acknowledge that more than their tactic can work.
Hard disagree, I’ve not seen a single person disagreeing with your points, only with the way you’ve raised them. Nor have I seen anyone express displeasure about the VA results, despite you talking about how ‘they’ are downplaying it.
In the interest of not stoking more argument, I would urge you to take a moment to read and parse the responses you’ve got here, and see if they natch up with what you think people are saying to you.
Good for you, I HAVE seen those things. What was your point?
I have a number of responses that are single word insults, positive “karma” for those. What do you say about that?
I’ve already have had a number of people try to downplay it. Just look the amount of Mamdani posts on Lemmy vs those of VA. On top of that, I’m told she only one there because her opponent was crazy. Diminishing her accomplishment. These people don’t want to admit that a varied approach is necessary. They want their way or nothing.
Yeah, they are. You can choose not to believe me, I don’t care. I know I’m not lying.
I think it’s probably contextual, the single word insults might fit better with the thread they’re in. But here, you’ve waded into a thread on a specific subject to insult and berate people for (supposedly) not being excited enough about a different subject. And then respond to anyone trying to give you feedback by accusing them of not being excited enough about that other subject despite them saying nothing about it.
Nope, not everyone downvoted because of the content. I enjoy down voting people who sound like assholes. And you fit the bill.
I expect people to downvote me when I talk like an asshole too. Which probably happens more often than I’d like to internalize.
I’m not saying EVERYONE did for that reason.
Your theory is completely wrong though. I have several responses to my comments that are just insults, not even a point being made. Single word responses that are insults. Guess what? They all have a ton of upvotes. Pretty much blows that theory out of the water.
It’s the content. People here want to pretend like ONLY Mamdani won. Because the VA victory goes against their narrative. They refuse to objectively evaluate reality. They’d probably rather we’d lost in VA.
I didn’t theorize anything though. I told you why I, personally, hit that downvote button. And I have definitely been downvoted for being an asshole here. I know I deserve it sometimes.
As for people not wanting to talk about VA. I have no opinion on that. I only have a few friends in VA and none of them are the type to tell me how they feel about a local election.
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I expect people to vote based on agreement or disagreement. And I’m not going coddle anybody, it IS fucking simplistic and it hurts the causes they supposedly dearly support.
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