A lot more money needs to be passed down the pyramid, not just in the Premier League. English football’s strength is the rich history of so many clubs and it’s tragic that some clubs feel entitled to perpetual success.
I’d be OK with the big boys pumping more money into League 1, 2 and the 4th tier.
I’m hooked on Welcome to Wrexham and want to see those clubs down there financially looked after and growing the game, and communities all the way down.
English football’s strength is the rich history of so many clubs
I think you’re wholly wrong here. English league football is so strong today because it has more money than any other league on Earth, and it has more money because of:
The formation of the Premier League allowing top clubs to maximize TV revenue better than any other league
English being the global lingua franca, allowing fans around the world to understand + interact with league media
England’s colonial legacy making English culture (including English football) more relevant than most other major footballing nations around the world
As a personal anecdote: I’m American. I am a diehard for my local MLS club, but I still enjoy watching the highest levels of football, which is found predominately in the five major European leagues. Theoretically, I could watch any of those leagues, but I don’t speak Spanish, German, Italian, or French. I do, however, speak English. I don’t have to go out of my way to find Premier League content in a language I understand to begin with, and because I speak the PL’s primary language, the universe of available content is so much larger than what I could find for any of those other leagues.
To use an objective rough metric of popularity, the Premier League now earns more money from foreign TV broadcasts than it does domestic, and those foreign TV earnings alone are greater than the totals for any other league. The PL is one of the strongest sports media products in the world, and as a result it’s the biggest moneymaker in world football, which has fueled the PL’s ascent as the most popular league around.
I don’t mean to say this to be cynical or crass, but to be quite honest the median foreign viewer really does not care about the lower levels of the pyramid. It’s charming and fun when a League One team manages to beat a PL side in the FA Cup, but outside of the top 20-40 teams in the pyramid foreign fans are not regularly concerned with what’s going on. The vast majority of foreign viewers are tuning in on Saturdays because they want to see what United, City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, or Spurs are doing (maybe also with an eye for which mid table teams have taken their perhaps once-in-a-decade run at finishing in the top 8), and maybe they have a more expansive view if they’re one of the few who’ve hitched their wagon to a non-Top Six club.
Obviously the view in England itself is quite different I’m sure, but this is a league that makes most of its money nowadays outside of England.
Very weird to see someone systematically devalue how unique it is to have 4.5 professional football leagues all connected and relevant in the same country. How it helps in terms of youth academies, playing time, football fandom. The Premier League has intrinsic value based on the dream that a club in League 2 over 10 years can get it all right and one day make it to the heights of the Premier League. This sort of thinking is how we get the Super League, one of the most soulless propositions ever the grace the game of football.
I’m just trying to speak strictly in pragmatic terms of what makes English football so good/important in the modern era. As an American, having a pyramid linking effectively every single team in the country is an incredibly cool concept that’s, unfortunately, all but a pipe dream here (we have hundreds of college football and basketball teams here with diehard fanbases and rich histories— it’d be amazing if they somehow had a competitive link to the NFL and NBA, for example).
My point is only that, while we all love a Leicester story, the dream of an underdog isn’t what brings in the foreign dollar, euro, etc. year over year (after all, Leicester is one of only two titles won by a non-Top Six club in the ~30 year history of the PL). The accessibility of the league to most of the world language-wise and fandoms associated with the top end of the league are why people keep tuning into the PL rather than the others. The Premier League is an English League rooted in English culture, but at this point it’s a global media enterprise funded (and, I don’t have numbers in front of me, but perhaps even owned) in majority by foreign sources.
That’s wholly inaccurate though because you’re not just looking at winning the title when you have the chance at European play. You don’t get Wrexham or Luton or Ipswich without the promise of making it to the Prem.
A lot more money needs to be passed down the pyramid, not just in the Premier League. English football’s strength is the rich history of so many clubs and it’s tragic that some clubs feel entitled to perpetual success.
I’d be OK with the big boys pumping more money into League 1, 2 and the 4th tier.
I’m hooked on Welcome to Wrexham and want to see those clubs down there financially looked after and growing the game, and communities all the way down.
Wrexham, Salford etc are not like the rest, they are basically on cheat codes to get to where they are I.e. can spend more than rivals……
Oh I know. Hence why I’d like to see more money filter down to other clubs.
It’s become boring really. Ignoring Leister City, the highest spending clubs are going to win.
Did you know they also failed FFP?
Isn’t it how the world is? The richest win.
I think you’re wholly wrong here. English league football is so strong today because it has more money than any other league on Earth, and it has more money because of:
The formation of the Premier League allowing top clubs to maximize TV revenue better than any other league
English being the global lingua franca, allowing fans around the world to understand + interact with league media
England’s colonial legacy making English culture (including English football) more relevant than most other major footballing nations around the world
As a personal anecdote: I’m American. I am a diehard for my local MLS club, but I still enjoy watching the highest levels of football, which is found predominately in the five major European leagues. Theoretically, I could watch any of those leagues, but I don’t speak Spanish, German, Italian, or French. I do, however, speak English. I don’t have to go out of my way to find Premier League content in a language I understand to begin with, and because I speak the PL’s primary language, the universe of available content is so much larger than what I could find for any of those other leagues.
To use an objective rough metric of popularity, the Premier League now earns more money from foreign TV broadcasts than it does domestic, and those foreign TV earnings alone are greater than the totals for any other league. The PL is one of the strongest sports media products in the world, and as a result it’s the biggest moneymaker in world football, which has fueled the PL’s ascent as the most popular league around.
I don’t mean to say this to be cynical or crass, but to be quite honest the median foreign viewer really does not care about the lower levels of the pyramid. It’s charming and fun when a League One team manages to beat a PL side in the FA Cup, but outside of the top 20-40 teams in the pyramid foreign fans are not regularly concerned with what’s going on. The vast majority of foreign viewers are tuning in on Saturdays because they want to see what United, City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, or Spurs are doing (maybe also with an eye for which mid table teams have taken their perhaps once-in-a-decade run at finishing in the top 8), and maybe they have a more expansive view if they’re one of the few who’ve hitched their wagon to a non-Top Six club.
Obviously the view in England itself is quite different I’m sure, but this is a league that makes most of its money nowadays outside of England.
Very weird to see someone systematically devalue how unique it is to have 4.5 professional football leagues all connected and relevant in the same country. How it helps in terms of youth academies, playing time, football fandom. The Premier League has intrinsic value based on the dream that a club in League 2 over 10 years can get it all right and one day make it to the heights of the Premier League. This sort of thinking is how we get the Super League, one of the most soulless propositions ever the grace the game of football.
I’m just trying to speak strictly in pragmatic terms of what makes English football so good/important in the modern era. As an American, having a pyramid linking effectively every single team in the country is an incredibly cool concept that’s, unfortunately, all but a pipe dream here (we have hundreds of college football and basketball teams here with diehard fanbases and rich histories— it’d be amazing if they somehow had a competitive link to the NFL and NBA, for example).
My point is only that, while we all love a Leicester story, the dream of an underdog isn’t what brings in the foreign dollar, euro, etc. year over year (after all, Leicester is one of only two titles won by a non-Top Six club in the ~30 year history of the PL). The accessibility of the league to most of the world language-wise and fandoms associated with the top end of the league are why people keep tuning into the PL rather than the others. The Premier League is an English League rooted in English culture, but at this point it’s a global media enterprise funded (and, I don’t have numbers in front of me, but perhaps even owned) in majority by foreign sources.
That’s wholly inaccurate though because you’re not just looking at winning the title when you have the chance at European play. You don’t get Wrexham or Luton or Ipswich without the promise of making it to the Prem.