This article is from November 17th, so a couple days old, but I found it worthwhile.
To be criminally charged for this is absolutely insane. The fact everyone knows he’s a lowlife and his name is out there is enough.
Yeah for me the world has gone too soft. I don’t see a crime to be honest there worth going to court for. It was utterly stupid and disgusting what he did but I feel like going to court was too far for it.
Let the club ban him and the media report on it but it feels excessive as he’s already lost his job and any future employer will see what he’s done with any background check.
People should be allowed to make mistakes and learn from them, I’m sure he’s not a bad person at all just did a stupid thing and now will pay for the rest of his life.
He got a suspended sentence basically just saying don’t do it again
Not really, a suspended sentence still counts as a prison sentence in terms of his criminal record
Only for 15 months until it becomes spent
I’m sure he’s not a bad person
Good people don’t tend to mock children who died from cancer, just saying.
Look at the thread about Grealish yesterday, people saying he’s such a lovable guy yet he drove and wrote his car off while absolutely steaming.
Anyone can make a mistake in the heat of the moment with alcohol involved. Imagine one mistake defining you for the rest of your life. If he’s acknowledged the mistake learned from it and makes him a better person then that’s much more important than villifying him and going to court over such a thing.
I don’t agree with a criminal offence and going to court over the matter.
I feel like you maybe wouldn’t be saying this if you were the kids family.
It’s a public order offence though? And his sentence was suspended. I don’t get the issue.
Am I gonna cry for this moron? Not one tear.
Is this punishment reasonable? Fuck, I just don’t know man…
I’m with you tbh. For context: Here in Germany this is the reason that offenders have a right to privacy, so their faces and their full names aren’t allowed to be shown / named (in german media).
This regulation has its own issues imo, but makes sense in this case: The offender gets punished, but they don’t have to suffer their whole life for it.
100% suspended sentence is correct. What he did is bad but he shouldn’t be taking up a cell in overflowing prisons.
Suspended essentially means no more public order offences so hopefully behaves
What I don’t know is does he have a criminal record now?
Well since he was convicted of course he does.
Absolutely, yes.
He got a 3-month custodial sentence. Convictions resulting in custodial sentences shorter than 12 months become ‘spent’ 12 months after the sentence ends. So, his conviction will be ‘unspent’ for the next 15 months.
While his conviction is ‘unspent’ he still only needs to tell an organisation about it (e.g. for a job application) if they ask him, but it will show up on any DBS - basic, standard or enhanced.
After it becomes ‘spent’ it will only show up on a standard or enhanced DBS check. He only needs to tell a potential employer, university or college about it if they ask him to and they tell him the role needs a standard or enhanced DBS check and it has not been removed (‘filtered’) from DBS certificates (as it resulted in a custodial sentence, it can’t ever be filtered).
It’s against the law for an employer, university or college to refuse someone a role because they’ve got a spent conviction or caution, unless it makes them unsuitable for the role (i.e. a driving conviction might make them unsuitable for a job as a driving instructor).
He isn’t though. It’s a suspended sentence.
Is the punishment unreasonable? Probably.
Do I care about someone who thought it would be funny to make fun of a child who dies of cancer? Absolutely not, they can throw the book at him for all I care
UK = clown world
Heard and seen way worse in COD lobbies back in the day.
Except he wasn’t in CDD lobbies, he was on the terraces next to the away fans laughing with a picture of a dead child who was well known for supporting Sunderland.
Yeah, which is vile, granted. Not sure what the actual *crime* here is though given you’d be hard pushed to find somebody that hasn’t made/laughed at a 9/11 joke, AIDS joke, cancer joke, dead celebrity joke, Jimmy Saville jokes, in their lifetime.
Difference is none of that was televised.
……televised next to the away fans. Like 9/11jokes in the NY Fire Department, AIDS/cancer joke to a dying victim and their family, Saville joke to one of his victims? Plus there is no ‘joke’ here, just an attempt to cause as much crass offence as possible. Context.
Context is important of course. But if somebody who had some form of cancer went and saw Frankie Boyle Live at the Apollo, I highly doubt Frankie is getting arrested when the member of the audience finds it offensive.
Baffles me that people pick and choose what’s offensive when it suits.
I’ve seen the same people crying about cancer jokes, sit and make 9/11 and rape jokes. It’s either all allowed to be joked about or none of it is.
“alcohol contributed to the offence, which was “out of character”.”
UK is finished smh 🤦♂️
They hanged him?
What the fuck
Imagine being a 32 year old man and doing that. I know being a dickhead isn’t technically a crime and I don’t think he should necessarily be charged with anything, but I’m kinda happy he’s being shamed like this.
Dickhead move and banworthy from the stadium? Ostracized from the community? Fair. But really? Arrest and sentenced? C’mon UK saying mean things shouldn’t get you locked in a cell. I guess I am just used to American free speech.
I guess I am just used to American free speech.
Give me some scumbag getting a suspended sentence every now and then over women being abused for getting an abortion after being raped.
Should have given the cunt a swift kick to the face and made sure his community service is spent on children’s cancer wards. The cunt.
What a daft cunt 😂😂😂
I don’t care if it was too much of a punishment, he fucking deserves it
Having shit craic shouldn’t result in being charged as a criminal. It’s a slippery slope, and shows you can be arrested and charged for pretty much anything.
Being a total knobhead shouldn’t get you charged as a criminal.
it’s an actual joke what western society has become - not for one second are his actions fine, they’re disgusting and vile.
but where do u draw the line between that and making a 9/11 meme on the internet?
So let’s say you went to the NY Fire Department, showed them pictures of their dead colleagues while having a right good laugh. Everything fine here?