• generally-ok@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I generally agree with you but just playing devil’s advocate, I think Rashford used his voice and position well to make good effective change.

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      1 year ago

      I generally agree with you but just playing devil’s advocate, I think Rashford used his voice and position well to make good effective change.

      I mean… until pretty recently we’d have said the same about Jordan Henderson…

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        1 year ago

        Rashford has also said absolutely nothing about Mason Greenwood coming back and it would have totally happened were it not for fans and staff revolting. So he’s not some paragon of virtue either

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      1 year ago

      Yes but his message was ‘feed hungry children’ not exactly a complex political or economic argument like the OP mentioned.

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      1 year ago

      Rashford is different because he put his money where his mouth is and helped a lot of people in the process. What the fuck did Henderson ever actually do for the LGBTQ+ community?

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      1 year ago

      There’s a difference between philanthropic work and speaking about topics you shouldn’t. Rashford was philanthropic work while Brad Pitt on climate change is just nonsense.

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      1 year ago

      There’s definitely positive examples yes. But by golly are they rare and mostly something we can only judge on the surface. Geniunely appreciate Rashys work a lot but I’m saddened he even has to do that level of advocating for such a no brainer

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      1 year ago

      I don’t even mean it as banter, but Marcus Rashford excels at Philanthropy as much as he does Football. No devil’s advocate about it.

      I’d listen to Peter Cech’s opinion on hockey and drumming. You can be knowledgeable in more than one field.

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        1 year ago

        You can be knowledgeable in more than one field

        You can, but you need to prove it by showing your know knowledge in said field. In that case, you listen to someone talking about hockey that happens to be a successful footballer, not because he’s a successful footballer

        I don’t know Cech outside of football, but I’m assuming the reason you and others (in particular, hockey people and drummers) listen to him on those topics and found it to make sense. Yes, without him being a successful footballer you’d never heard about him, but he still needed to prove himself on that

        Then you also have the obvious that having certain issues in some issues raises your commercial value to a degree that hockey and drumming don’t

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            1 year ago

            There you have it, you listen to him on those topics because of that. His famous because of his football merits but his opinions on those topics matter because of what you pointed out

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        1 year ago

        I’d argue there’s no devil’s advocate about celebs actually putting money towards good causes, compared to people just saying words to please the currently politically approved positon.

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      1 year ago

      I agree, but I also think their is an astronomical difference between “Saying something” and “Doing something”.