well, according to ur article, Europe is indeed a serious emissions exporter! which confirms my opinion. Who makes windmills and solar panels ? Most of the time it is China, and thats how u import emissions: by selling affordable panels. Europe making their own panels would spare the chinese more pollution, thats it.
all the better: but they also have to work on reducing their emission exports too and stop being hypocrite about how much polluting china is (if thoses stats stand true ofc)
According to the experts in this video it currently takes half a year to offset the emissions related to the production and installation of wind and solar. After that its completely green energy. And solar cells last for at least 20 years.
So by purchasing from other countries you might outsource a little bit of emissions but save loads compared to running carbon-based plants.
As a panel has a 25 year life usage, we see that about half the gross production of the whole device goes to the initial energy debt linked to the production of the device. In other terms, if we want to take into account the energy spending required to manufacture the device, it’s rather 5% of France that we should cover with panels.
because i once took ur position and was confronted with this argument, and now i am confronting this arguemnt against u: nothing personal but just to get hold of facts. also was busy so i couldnt respond same-day, but i kept ur reply in mind.Lemmy is really engaging but can’t let that seep into the rest of my daily-life
its about outsourcing emissions to China, but wouldnt mind really since they are proactive about forestation and other approaches …
Not really; trade changes things a bit, but not that much. It’s that the cost of wind and solar has come down. A lot. So people are installing a lot.
well, according to ur article, Europe is indeed a serious emissions exporter! which confirms my opinion. Who makes windmills and solar panels ? Most of the time it is China, and thats how u import emissions: by selling affordable panels. Europe making their own panels would spare the chinese more pollution, thats it.
China really dominates solar, but a lot of wind turbines are made in the US and EU
all the better: but they also have to work on reducing their emission exports too and stop being hypocrite about how much polluting china is (if thoses stats stand true ofc)
According to the experts in this video it currently takes half a year to offset the emissions related to the production and installation of wind and solar. After that its completely green energy. And solar cells last for at least 20 years.
So by purchasing from other countries you might outsource a little bit of emissions but save loads compared to running carbon-based plants.
this dude (french physicist presumably, and big promoter of nuclear) thinks otherwise:
https://jancovici.com/en/energy-transition/renewables/what-potential-for-solar-energy-and-biomass-energy/
because i once took ur position and was confronted with this argument, and now i am confronting this arguemnt against u: nothing personal but just to get hold of facts. also was busy so i couldnt respond same-day, but i kept ur reply in mind.Lemmy is really engaging but can’t let that seep into the rest of my daily-life