Surely it would place a massive asterisk on all the trophies won during his time at Man City? In future discussions on the greatest manager would this be a talking point which stains our perception on him? Or will he still be lauded as the greatest by some despite the wider context?

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    10 months ago

    Was it City or Pep who broke the rules?

    If it him who did then too bad, but if he did not, in my books he’d still remain the GOAT that he is.

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    10 months ago

    I watch football. I shape my opinion based on the way I see his teams play. If City is found guilty is fair that they pay, however my opinion of him as a manager doesn’t change. He’s one of the best in the last 20 years.

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    10 months ago

    The charges are all FFP violations, no? Correct me if I’m wrong, but unlike the Barça stuff, there aren’t any bribery allegations against Man City. If so, I don’t think his legacy is going to change all that much (in the prem, at least).

    Half of these clubs have been operating under very sketchy circumstances for quite sometime. That’s just the prem for you. I don’t mean to mitigate this; sportswashing is lame. But I do think that a) plenty of clubs have gone all out spending too much money and not producing and b) we should be looking into the system that allowed these 115 violations to occur as opposed to deducting points and calling it a day.

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    10 months ago

    does anyone else feel like the charges will never go anywhere and nothing will happen

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    10 months ago

    If it comes out that he essentially cheated throughout his entire managerial career. All respect I have for him and any good opinions I have of him will be gone.

    I watch WWE for the fake bullshit, I watch football to see a real competition.

    That being said he won’t get stripped of his titles, he’ll always have his money and he doesn’t give a fuck what I think of him

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    10 months ago

    It wouldn’t affect guardiola

    Unless it was something akin to match fixing or ref buying he’s in the clean. He doesn’t have anything to do with the clubs finances.

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    10 months ago

    Badly, hopefully… they should be stripped off everything and all of a sudden the hype around him would dissappear.

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    10 months ago

    If they are found guilty he will be fun in the media considering he constantly flat out denies accusations when he doesn’t need to

    If they are found guilty then his career as a manager will have been

    Brilliant barca team won everything *paying referees being investigated + doping scandals Bayern - won domestic trophies - so do all bayern managers City won everything - cheating may even get trophies taken off them who knows

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    10 months ago

    The only time in his coaching career he hasn’t been accused of cheating are in his bayern tenure iirc. Cheated as a player, too. I think being found guilty here too would be pretty damning, honestly. People would rightfully recognize his coaching ability in the short term, because despite cheating (hypothetically) Pep has still had a significant impact on the game. In the long term however I’d hope to see the public bin him

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    10 months ago

    He’s the Lance Armstrong of football.

    He took steroids as a player and blamed it on his doctor (Dr. Ramon Segura)…

    Then in 2009 when appointed Barcelona manager he hired the very same doctor that caused him to fail two drug tests in 2001.

    During Pep Guardiola’s time at Bayern there were issues with Dr Hans Müller-Wohlfahrt who has served as the club medic since 1977…

    The issues arose when Pep claimed the German wasn’t in the same class as Cugat.

    In his autobiography, My Life and My Medicine, Müller-Wohlfahrt wrote that he was “blamed for numerous injuries, the physical condition of the players and ultimately for a defeat by Porto (in April 2015).”

    Guardiola also used to say “it cannot be that injuries here last six weeks but in Spain only a fortnight," according to the German. 👀

    Things came to a head with the saga over an injury to midfielder Thiago Alcantara. The Spanish midfielder was sent to Barcelona in March 2014 for treatment for a knee injury, which turned out to be a partial tear of the ACL.

    “Thiago once returned from Spain after four weeks, seemingly fit,” Müller-Wohlfahrt wrote. “But when I evaluated him I said, ’stop! The injury has not healed completely, even though you are pain free’. Thiago got injured again and went on to miss a full year.” 👀

    When joining Manchester City Pep Guardiola made it quite clear from the outset that he had to work with Cugat.

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    10 months ago

    There already is a massive asterisk. Football fans know, whether they get docked or not.

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    10 months ago

    Yes it would. That plus the referee payments Barcelona is accused of would seriously tarnish his legacy.

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    10 months ago

    Honestly I don’t think it does. Football fans will remember the amazing football, record points totals, trophies etc.

    Just because they’ve spent a lot of money he still has to coach them to be as good as they have been