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      The state of the country is so bad that…

      Fundamentally disagree. If Trump and Biden both died on the same day before the election, it would not change a thing, other than make the next election even more contentious. Project 2025 doesn’t go away just because Trump would be gone in that scenario.

      Our political system needs a major overhaul

      Agreed. It’s going to take decades of concerted efforts, because the fascists aren’t simply going to give up after a few losses.

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      It’s not as if any other Republican candidate won’t be a frothing fascist. We’ve got fucking DeSantis heeling in the wings.

      And there aren’t any other Democrats with enough name recognition to put forward a good game at this point. Maybe if Biden had announced he wouldn’t seek a 2nd term in 2020 we’d have someone. But a sudden double-death before the general election is going to be MUCH more likely to favor a Republican.

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        Gavin Newsom is salivating for it, he’ll be the go-to guy in '28, but someone will have to tell Harris nobody likes her.

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        I’d argue AOC has the name recognition, but she’d be way too polarizing to ever get her past the establishment.

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          Very mixed feelings. I love having her around but the president shouldn’t be a “super duper senator”. I disagree with AOC on a ton but wish there were 6-28 more of her.

          But the best executive shouldn’t have an agenda. The ideal executive turns around and says “you vote these folks in every two years, don’t yell at ms”

          That’s obviously not the world we live in, but it’s where we need to go.

          And to that… There’s no equivlancy here… You can vote for or against fascism next year in the US. It should be different, but that’s a hypothetical. Just imagine going to an occupy Wallstreet protestor, and explaining they’d be begging for Romney. There is no choice.

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            The problem is that if we keep "Middle-of-the-road"ing our candidates, the overton window just keeps moving to the right.

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              That’s why you put effort into the primary, Sanders’s campaign shifted the entire party leftward

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              the alternative now, though, is the very real prospect of plunging deep(er) into the far-right. recovery from which would take decades.

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            I also think parties need to put forward people with executive experience, such as Governors and Mayors. Senators have only tangential experience