I went cardo and sound quality is amazing for both mic noice cancelling and speakers. If I can see my brother, I can hear him as far as the signal range goes on the road. He has to go around a corner and be pretty far out for it to drop.

But if they ever die and the new ones have anothing to do with a subscription there is no way in hell I’d use them.

I said don’t worry about it…I didn’t say we weren’t using cameras anyway.

My dad did a thorough refresh on one very similar. He was lucky to find a local paint guy that was super excited about it an spent way to much time matching the gold yellow for some minor touch ups.

I used to have a Garmin nuvi (not the expensive zumo). Then switched to phone Google maps, now I just save my area offline and do audio only through my headset. But that’s all on road riding. Maybe I’ll try Gaia again. But I don’t usually get super particular about my routes either.