Yeah that just sounds wild to me. I can see how you would justify disparagement for hypocrisy here. That being said if you’re using ‘woke’ as a strictly ‘other’ term I would reflect on that.

I used to live in Texas where people were pretty forthrightly awful. Or there was a lot of ‘bigotry of low expectations’ going on that I realized I fell into for quite a while after I came to my current blue haven. I don’t think anyone here calls the cops on black people in public spaces but I do think some of that is probably a bit of co-policing on that end too

Assuming everything at face value I feel like Boston is pretty insufferable. I don’t actually know that much so I can’t comment directly but I would still recommend getting out of the space for some perspective. Good chance you either go somewhere where people are openly shitbags and find out how much tolerance makes a difference even if people are overstepping in their social justice warrioring, or you find a place that’s had a chance to cool off and think about it for a mo.

But yeah, white liberalism is everywhere and super annoying in all places. Just keep looking until somewhere meets your speed.

I’m just trying to sort how all of this happens so blatantly at once.

To be completely clear I live in a deeply progressive part of the country and am surrounded by every stereotype of the bottom left quadrant. I know there’s a cliche of ‘doing the reading’ but I’ve never felt pressured by my education. I’m a college dropout and I kind of low key refuse to read theory out of a mild obstinance but that hasn’t been a barrier, def. Unsusre where to go to find those people.

My parents went to college in varying degrees and they were/are neoliberal conervatives. My Dad confessed some sex crimes to me from when ‘it was different in those days’ so yeah good riddance to him for that and a few other things but my Mom is a deeply toxic person, so I do gravitate towards the no contact crowd to commisserate. Genuinely though I do think that politics do reflect a personality to a certain degree so I’m not sure what to say there. Everyone from my parent’s generation were all about ‘never talking politics’ and I think it’s an admission that you probably would hunt the homeless for sport if it was legal and you don’t know how to not get baited in a conversation into admitting it. Keep in mind everyone from that generation voted for Reagan and that’s a huge ding any day.

I do think you’re abbreviating details here probably for good reason, but if the only people you meet are like this it’s time for a new bar. Or you’re maybe very young in a relative sense as it takes some time to temper the edges of this kind of purity politics. That and I think guilt by association is valid only if you are trying to be deeply guarded about something and that kind of defensiveness does get overblown in circles built on performativity.

Best example of an extreme I’d personally encountered and had to deal with for friend circle issues is a guy we hung out with for a while who was socially awkward, for sure, but I wanted to try giving him the benefit of a doubt. Dude even admitted to being a transphobe but ‘was just asking questions’ so I thought maybe there was a path to tolerance and change there. Sure enough though after a couple months all he did was creep out the women in the group and be really insistent that everyone should start playing Smash Bros at every hangout(an unfortunate red flag admittedly), and when I asked him how he thought he was coming off he went off the rails and started talking about how everyone had impossible standards and our trans friends were delusional, so later dude.

I say all of this to at least try to put the defensiveness you might run into in a sympathetic light. I imagine these people have run into some real creepos and if they get any sniff of it they shut down.

Very curious about the requirements you’ve encountered.

Brilliant stuff. Vote with your dollar in a world full of billionaires and litterially shitting your opinions. Foubd a shitlib on Lemmy surprise surprise.

In so many words I agree. I find socialization to be difficult when you try to make an offhand comment about, generally, ‘the bad stuff going on’ and there’s a 30% chance the person you’re talking to will suddenly and very loudly start agreeing with and cheering on the ‘bad stuff’.

And then if it’s not that then you have a 30 percent chance that they will shut down and say ‘I don’t have enough information about the blatantly bad and terrible things to have an opinion or want to talk about it’, and then you’re left wondering what kind of conversation you could have with a person like that.

And I fucking hate Magic the Gathering so that’s right out. Admittedly it’s all on me, I get way too table flippy about TCG’s.

Dwarf Fortress is a boss fight of video games unto itself.

I like how you very much ignored my last paragraph to make you other points when I directly addressed them both there.

Keep your fingers in your ears and lalala loudly through life.

Genuinely don’t care. The world sucks. I bought the Switch 2 at launvh and knew our dipshit president and the fuckass tech oligarchy were going to drive the price up but I wantes it anyway for needlessly sentimental reasons.

I really think people are just angry they can’t point their rage at the power structures that caused this so they want to do it through consummerism, but the reality is you have less power there than you do politically. If you are shocked and offended that you don’t get your tariff money back then I’m sorry but you were always the sucker here.

Super cool how people can just say anything on the internet.

I mean close your eyes and ‘lalala’ whatever you want vut if you haven’t seen the pattern over the last 12 years maybe you never will.

I think getting semantic here is a trap, it’s still serving the purpose of casting doubt on the system. Great most days, but when an election is looming this is wrecker shit.

Think the usual ‘Democrats are terrible too’ schtick doesn’t actually work well on Lemmy broadly but now we’re going to see things like this where people will start picking apart the words of the text and claiming it isn’t what it is.

We’re all, mostly, at least a good decent number of us, adults who have seen all this shit before. Yes they said liberals, liberals are centerist poo-poo-ers who want their status quo and don’t want to be associated with bad press but not much else, fuck em. But also, Capitalism isn’t going to be fixed any time soon, in the meantime, however, one party plays host to at least some number of people trying to actually improve the lives of their constituency and for fucks sake you can’t tell me they’re just as bad as the partyconsisting exclusively of people openly looting and pillaging the entirety of the nation for personal gain and bald faced cruelty.

Just downvote OP and keep an eye out for people trying to bait.

I quit Reddit a long time ago but yes, especially during an election year, the internet just cyclically becomes nearly non-functional for about 6 months before the metrics dip and temporarily self-correct.

I remember even during 2008 when bots weren’t nearly as bad and the internet was more than just 6 megasites, there was a pattern of infighting and political discourse that would always just run right up to the edge of destroying communities and then back off a little.

I figure there’s some very human nature element to it and it’s pretty depressing but I always manage to find new hobbies and people during these tumes because everyone if getting sick of their comfort zones being raided and trying to find where the sane people are. Just hang in there, until there’s some sort of regulation or the technocracy that runs the internet is somehow broken you just have to tread water and keep true to your own sense of ‘normal’.

Or go camping. Camping is good.

Wrecker ass post

https://youtu.be/9Q9WGTCFwzY

The vid was posted 10 years ago but it’s much older than that. I remember watching it on Google videos right around Burning Crusade coming out.

Anyway, gl next time you’re in Goldshire.

Man Cody/Katie/Wormbo from Even More News look like they got put through the early 90’s prime time TV show filter.

Yeah baby I’m a scorpanceitarius