My memory was that we knew this at the time?

Who are you calling an amateur, buddy? I can argue you under the table!

I guess 2000 was long enough ago to forget

If the dems ever sweep the house and senate, I hope they pass legislation

I mean, it’s pulling from MBFC and ground news, which are not both owned by Dave Van Zandt, and he doesn’t work alone. Also, when compared to other fact checking organizations, MBFC performs well, from what I’ve read. Well enough that if you find their output uncomfortable, you should be second guessing yourself.

It’s not really a bot’s opinion though? It’s reporting on salon in general, and letting you know that the reporting has a bias, which means generally, it might promote parts of the story that show Vance in a bad light compared to other reporting, and the. The Ground News link shows that reporting on this topic across several sources tends to be pretty non biased and factual. That’s all good information to have, and saying otherwise means you want to let yourself be misled.

And everything other than joining the topic and the source is written by humans who are trying to keep people informed.

If you’re down voting a fact checker, you might want to do some self reflection on why you’re upset that Salon doesn’t have a perfect rating

That’s what the article is about: how that change has pushed politicians to be open about their flaws and having much more public lives, like celebrities. Meaning that voters vote for politicians who act like celebrities. The sentiment in other comments of “No. No we don’t.” ignores the reality of who has been winning elections for the last 30 years.

I’m gonna guess there’s a lot of down votes from people who just read the title…

The author points out the last 30 years of presidential candidates as their evidence, and paints a pretty nuanced picture of his politicians have dealt with changing voter trends. No one wants to vote for the candidate that doesn’t act like that can emphasize empathize (glide typing failed me) with them, even though that’s not really the president’s job.

Don’t ruin your own experience because someone else is enjoying it differently than you like to

That’s helpful information, they both look like they’ve got good pedigrees. I’m a bit surprised that none of the normal fact and bias checker sites have anything for Drop Site.

I don’t quite understand the down votes here: Israel is a topic with lots of strong opinions, and basic good media literacy is to do research on sources you don’t recognize. There’s been a lot of shoddy journalism to get clicks out there, and one should be critical of the information they ingest. The Ground News bot is a good thing.

I’m having trouble finding any kind of credibility grading for this source

Pretty sure you just attacked someone for agreeing with you.

Excuse me if I don’t trust the infallibility of the foreign policy platform of a person who falls back to ad hominem attacks after reading 3 sentences, and failing to grasp their meaning

Oh dang u right, it ain’t nuanced, my b

And what happens when Egypt starts thinking Israel looks weak? Let them use Gaza as a reason to attack? I’m very against what Israel is doing, but this is very reductive. It’s foolish to think that peace in the middle east is not a nuanced subject

Well, this is an American election? There’s only so much one president can do about the actions of another sovereign nation. In fact, a lot of progressives wish the US would do less

This whole discourse reminds me of some pro-Bush Jr. Family members who were complaining during those elections that the fiscal plan they liked (which caused the crash in 2008, but whatever) had been tied to trying to appease the single issue voters who cared about limiting abortion and LGBTQIA+ rights. This all or noting stance about Gaza feels just as singularly focused as those wingnuts.

A lot of fridges are made to go both ways. You have to attach the handle and the hinge when you get it. A lot of fridges will have two plugs on the other side to cover the unused bolt holes

Yeah, this sounds like a good prank: it messes with their muscle memory, but it’s otherwise harmless