Almost all people have some need (depending on the definition) for physical intimacy. Not just men.

That said, people saying men need a therapist aren’t saying a therapist would help men and a therapist would authentically be in their best self interest (unless you are extremely patronizing). They’re saying a therapist would fix them, because men need fixing. Its not out of some genuine desire to make men happier.

What we really need to say is men need re-education. Because it is primarily men that are fucking up the world.

Dude, I can see your post history. You shouldn’t be talking. All you do is whinge and moan.

Also you’re basically a reactionary walking along the border of just calling me a degenerate. So just do it.

I think you are jumping the gun. I’m a soft anti-natalist (because people do not choose to be born), don’t believe in free will, and I kind of resent being born myself and the expectations that come with it. I’ve not loved life much and one of the main reasons I’ve not killed myself is that I am terrified of dying now that I’m alive.

By my own ethical analysis, I don’t owe the world anything on an intrinsic level. I did not choose to be here and I’ve not forced anyone else into the world. Like sure, I’ll help in a pretty conventional emotional/empathy sort of way for people around me in the present. And can empathize with kids in terms of feeling bad about how screwed they are though what with the state of the climate. Not my fault though.

If I had brought a new human being into existence I’d probably be in a perpetual state of anxiety over the responsibility of giving them a good life since I’m the one that fucked up and brought them here. Luckily for me that’s not happened and probably wont with my plans to get a vasectomy once I have the cash and a full vacation day or two for recovery.

But yeah, fuck you. I guess we’re just mortal enemies or some shit? Get your stick out of your ass. You aren’t morally superior.

I don’t have any kids and I believe when I’m dead I wont be conscious of anything so I really struggle to care unless its something that can be done faster.

That said, I kind of actually do think its physically doable within my lifetime, it would just require some technological advancement in automated construction and energy production.

Note the “In a vacuum” and “implies”. Based on the idea that ~20-30% of men “reproduce”. Which isn’t really something I care about specifically to increase, but the implication is that most men are lonely while most women are not. And that men should just “own it” or whatever.

Taken at face value the solution isn’t that men just need to pull themselves up by their boot straps, this is a systemic problem that can’t be fixed by individualistic solutions.

If I remember correctly, there is research to strongly suggest that women also tend to be much happier alone than men are.

I am not surprised that I got so heavily down voted, but I am disappointed that I only got one reply. My intent was to spur some deeper discourse.

My understanding is the existing Jewish population was integrated into Israel.

In a vacuum, your post implies we should stop giving birth to boys as often as girls on a pure ethical basis to minimize the amount of miserable lonely people. Like, abort 75% of all male babies or if abortion is too yucky for some of you use some kind of geneforge to make female births 5x as likely.

Do you think that they’d displace other Jewish people if they were living there already? I’m pretty sure its the religious fanaticism fueling this.

I mean, fuck Hegseth in general, but the Houthis aren’t an ethnic group and are generally bad, being so oppositional to peace in Yemen historically and killing civilians.

I don’t think we’re ignoring that, so much as there is an overwhelming amount of bad shit to talk about stemming from this single incident.

And to be honest the bigger issue revealed here isn’t the failure to protect classified information or that they’re bombing Yemen (In a vacuum at least) right now but the fact that they are violating the law also by using an app that destroys documentation of their conversations. This has implications not only legally or militaristically but also that they know they want to do shit that would be illegal and evil enough that they don’t even want to use standard classified channels, not just bombing of Yemen but probably more future evil shit.

Air pollution can be just as bad if you live near big farms in a poorly regulated air quality state.

Also you’ll socially rot.

Also thanks for letting me ramble. I tend to get excited when I seem to be helping in some way so I’m trying to keep it together but may go off a little.

I enjoy discourse of most kinds so the pleasure is mine as well.

And hey, if you’re nailing it 95% of the time those are excellent numbers with so much wiggle room! You can be waaaaaaay weirder with numbers like that, and it shows me that you have a strong ability to read the room and measure your response to things.

Yeah but, those 5% moments can be ruinous… I still remember one particular Halloween party. The kind of memory that keeps one up at night.

Many times its just me breaking and being clearly either grumpy (sick of people) or smell of lonely neediness. Or I’ll mentally short circuit and say something way overly blunt/irrelevant/obsessive. All can just make me legitimately unlikable and maybe deserving of the label. Its not like “fun zany autistic” moments.

So imagine a super charismatic type just suddenly breaking character after something slightly socially unexpected and outwardly presenting as a lizard person or android following that.

I get what you mean. You get so used to doing it that you basically no longer have evidence for things being ok when you don’t. I kept a note going every day for a whole year writing down stuff that happened; It was like a journal but focused on working on this stuff and I was so surprised to find how much I was expecting to write “and then it all fell apart” but finding that when it came time to write it down I just couldn’t actually come up with examples. I’m not saying you have to journal, but food for thought.

Yeah I might start doing little journals on my phone. I started using an open source note taking app, Logseq and thought maybe be one of the uses for that. I just need to create a template or something for that I think.

Was Einstein complicit when he fled? I intend to try and leave, or take refuge somehow.

I got the basics covered, in fact I tend to be fairly anxiety riddled about making sure I meet bare minimum expectations if I go out of my way to socialize. I only really let myself go (in multiple ways) when I’m depressed. Which admittedly I probably am right now.

Its funny you mention board games. I’m actually not super into board games on an intrinsic level unless its a supremely nerdy/crunchy game. I get very meticulous/competitive/analytical/meta-gamey but I do go to casual board game meet ups anyway because its “fun enough” and I can socialize occasionally.

I think though you hit on a key element: I don’t live in a metro area. I live in a rural hellscape, and commute into a small city. And for a number of reasons I tend to not socialize after work and instead head straight home. I’m usually tired after work and I worry about driving home later than that potentially and driving exhausted. (45 minute commute)

Vulnerability is definitely something I am not able to do without rumination or severe anxiety later. I usually only reveal my deeper thoughts when I’m seriously drunk (edit: or when I’m on the internet). It feels great in the moment, but then the next day I worry I came off like a nutcase (because I probably did) and agonize over it.

Normally I am very “survivalist” minded in my social interactions and I’ve been so for a very long time. I’ve gotten extremely good at it, so good that I’ve kind of forgotten who I really am to a degree.

I’m good at masking with significant charisma with preparation/rehearsal/caffeine for some amount of time. Though I have “high highs and low lows” on charisma. 95% of the time I’ll ace it and people will like me, other 5% of times I come off like an unhinged weirdo, robot, or alien. Usually when I’m socially burnt out or the opposite, socially starved/desperate.

Ask them what?

Individual people are not their government.

what are you going to do NOW about it?

This mess isn’t on some of us. Some of us tried very hard to prevent this outcome and now suddenly we’re expected to clean up other people’s fucking mess.

Nah, fuck that.

I find it deeply disturbing that when I opened the comment section of a post discussing 400 (now over 700) dead people, mostly innocent children, men, and women, in less than 48 hours, the first reaction was to blame “Arabs,” “Muslims,” “Tankies,” “Leftists,” and “Pro-Palestinians,” using these minority communities as tokens.

Tankies are not “minority groups”…

This is a glaring display f hypocrisy, these groups are portrayed in a positive light only when it benefits politically, only to be thrown under the bus when they are no longer useful…

There is no hypocrisy. Arabs and Muslims are portrayed in a positive light to counter the American far right’s frothing hatred of them, that was the core reason.

Any human capable of experiencing empathy would have first reacted with disgust and indignation at the unfolding genocide, rather than resorting to scapegoating and divisive rhetoric, but it may also not be organic comments, what do I know…

“divisive rhetoric” you sound like a fucking centrist.

As a Windows & Linux user, I can, in the same way that I get that car people love working on cars.

I still really don’t ever want to work on cars but I understand.

I largely use technology of any kind for the applications of its use, not because of an intrinsic desire to knee deep in technical work.