Honestly, Spez probably does want that. AI won’t destroy shareholder value when you screw it over. It will also fill in some gaps left by the real people leaving.
It’s complete Dead Internet, but none of that is really a concern for them.
There’s plenty of good business reasons not to want to deal with these requests. Even if the first ones would be easier to just turn over, the 1000th, or millionth gets overwhelming
Isn’t there some sort of statute of limitations here? 12 years is an awfully long time
Thank you, I hadn’t seen that yet. Assuming it’s true, that’s going to make their claims very hard to prove. It might even get dismissed.
The simple fact that they are former employees is meaningless. This is especially true in California (i.e. where Twitter HQ is, and presumably most of these employees) where non-competes are nearly completely unenforceable. Twitter will have to specifically show that it’s about their internal trade secrets, and not just the general experience they brought from their time at Twitter.
But right now, it’s entirely Twitter doing the talking. We haven’t seen yet how Meta will respond. I predict there is a 0% chance that Threads gets shutdown any time soon.
If you read the actual letter, it seems to paint a slightly different picture. They vaguely order Meta to stop using twitters trade secrets (whatever that may be), and serve notice to preserve communications. That’s fairly normal. But then they have an entire tangent about scraping Twitter’s publicly available data.
Possibly. I’m not entirely sure how to interpret that part.
One plausible scenario is that they brought in a consultant, who said their data would be worth $XXXX on the open market. A common element of MBA thinking is that any potential profits are something you are entitled to, regardless of the consequences. It’s also pretty clear they don’t have a mature management team, or a viable path to realize those profits. But they had to stop someone else from getting it, so there was a rushed decision. I don’t quite know how it coincided with killing 3rd party apps, though, unless it was just more really incompetent management.
I experienced the same thing! (Except my home instance is FMHY, not LW)
It is the same experience as trying to view NSFW subs on another instance that I’m not logged into. I already know there’s a filter that won’t show NSFW if you aren’t logged in, which explains those. I even checked, and didn’t see this as having anything marked NSFW.
I’m going to chalk it up as a Lemmy bug.
There is, and it’s not completely dead
Reddit isn’t just trying to balance the budget - they are specifically scrambling to make things work (or at least, look like they will work) for an IPO, which is a beast in and of itself.
That’s pretty likely, given how many have left in the past year, and it’s possibly a very big problem for Meta. Apple in their early days infamously asked candidates if they were “virgins”. It was not (as Hollywood likes to portray) about their sexual history, but whether they had ever touched or seen IBM’s proprietary code. Apple needed to do a clean-room development and implementation of the same thing. They knew IBM would sic the lawyers on them, and they had to prove they did it using nothing but publicly available info.
The article has absolutely no detail on what these trade secrets might be, or if they will be upheld in court, so we can only speculate. But if these really are trade secrets, and Meta poached them, then we could be talking serious damages or even an injunction.
But knowing the courts, this won’t actually be decided for years and it won’t even matter by then
While his comment is (mostly) technically correct, it misses the point.
When it happens, you will no longer have a small (but growing) community of Mastodon users - you’ll have a bunch of nerds using a shitty version of Threads.
I’m not sure why everyone thinks the lawyers would get involved. It doesn’t matter what the guidelines technically say. Reddit has already proven to be extremely untrustworthy regarding their mod policy. If the admins want the mods out, the mods will simply be out.
But it sets a nice precedent/roadmap for the people still there even after the new mods (who have pledged fealty to the king) are installed. Countless people will do this until they get banned, hurting Reddit where it counts.
Much like a train wreck, part of me wants to see that. But I also know that like a train wreck, I’d turn away as soon as it was actually in front of me
It’s an interesting move. The only moves are to ban (at least from that sub) all of those users, or to decide that profanity doesn’t merit the NSFW tag.
The first would require a lot of work from the admins (either doing the moderating, or replacing mods until they find some that are willing to take orders on this, for free). The second endangers that sweet, sweet advertising money they want so dearly.
Of course, they could try to wait it out, but that seems unlikely. They’ve already taken extreme action to end the protests.
Not OP, but my communities are homed on a number of different instances. At minimum, I need to be able to interact with them, both reading and widely distributing my posts/comments. Preferably all on the same account, but that’s gotten more difficult lately.
For any communities I may create, I generally want to ensure that they can be accessed widely, by most users in the fediverse.
All of this preferably without having to deal with tankies, Nazis, etc.
Which part of the 90/9/1 are most of those users? Very few subs are truly back to business as usual, and it seems likely the rest will be forever weakened. Recovery would mean either existing users capitulate, or new users *filling the same role *taking their place.
Reddit won’t disappear by any means, but it’s also unlikely to remain such a go-to resource. Once a social media platform loses critical mass, it’s easy to enter a death spiral.
Thing is, the slow boil technique is tried and true. Each turn of the crank would only anger a small group, and would ensure the platform remains stable and popular.
A better question is why is this happening all at once? It feels like the top brass had a meeting to discuss options to increase revenue, and just decided “Fuck it. Let’s just do them all”
The blackout was to show numbers- it was not a small minority of users that cared, but rather a significant majority. Pissing off most of your users, especially your most active users, is generally a bad business move.
The real question is what people will do on July 1. Will those same users cave and switch to the official app? Reddit is counting on most users doing that, or at least enough to make it a profitable move. I personally will not.
I will only see Reddit when it comes up from a Google search, and will not get involved in the conversations. Some of my communities are already permanently dead, and others severely weakened. But others are fine, since most users there are already on the official app.
As the quality drops, more people leave, and fewer people join. Reddit could cease to be a central hub and become more niche. It could also turn into a cesspool. There are some signs that neo-nazis and otherwise shitty people will take over, not unlike we are seeing with Twitter. Or it could all blow over, and this was all just a bump in the road for Reddit.
The numbers are highly skewed because of the launch. A number of users are being paid to create content during the launch. A lot of the users are just checking out the hype. Some will stay, many won’t.
The numbers won’t really be useful or comparable until the dust settles. I give it a month.