So who do you side with instead? The owners who are without a doubt corrupt?

Right, in perspective of the initial orange portal the people are moving. They aren’t at rest compared to the portal. The portal is at rest.

Yes it is.

It’s the largest social media right now.

It makes sense that changes to it, especially changes like this, are news.

What is that even suppose to mean in this context?

The only way for someone to make money in crypto is for someone else to lose it.

Crypto is a scam.

https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/1847252

This you?

Literally two comments ago you were making excuses.

What the hell are you talking about? I went along with your “thought experiment.” I answered your question.

I didn’t avoid a single thing. Did I miss something you asked? Ask again if I did.

There are 100% people that live under capitalism and don’t work, but don’t ever have to worry about starving.

There are people who get unfairly given more profit than they work for.

There are people who unfairly get less of the profits than they deserve.

I’m saying it should be fairly distributed by the workers. You’re pretending it isn’t an issue.

I’m explicitly saying he should not profit from the others labor. I’m explicitly saying they should be fairly compensated for their labor.

No. If he’s still working beside them (like you said in your example), then his labor is making the value. He is entitled to that value.

It’s impossible to “make” value from someone else’s labor. The person doing the labor created the value.

Your example also isn’t them voluntarily working for him. You said in your example that it was either work for him or starve.

If he’s not and he’s sitting doing nothing - creating no value - then he gets nothing.

Yes. A person should make the value from their labor.

Yes.

And there go those goalposts again.

Would you give these same excuses for a communist nation?

Would you say famine wouldn’t count because they were in a war?

No, Communism is a political ideology that focuses on giving the means of production to the people doing the labor.

What you just said is the right-wing capitalist propaganda definition of communism.

In the context of this conversation it is about removing the Capitalist from business. Making it so everyone earns their fair share of the profits instead of one person at the top (like a King/feudalism) gets all the profits, while also making all the decisions. Instead the laborors gets a stake in the business - giving more incentive to help the business do well while giving the worker more power and take home money.

I’m mean, come on man. You can’t be serious? You realize you’re in denial right? You have to realize it.

It’s clearly right there. He clearly did what you asked. He clearly explained it to you.

You keep making excuses. Trying to find ways to wiggle out of being wrong. When it is so plain as day, literally spelled out for you.

Seek help man. Do some inward thinking. It’s impossible to have a discussion when you just deny what is in front of you.

What you think about communism is completely wrong.

What do you think communism is? Cause it’s not at all like feudalism - you’re thinking of late stage capitalism that’s like feudalism.

You didn’t even ask which ones are CURRENTLY facing famine.

You asked for example if famine in Capitalist nations.

He over delivered. Stop moving the goalposts.

But there are.

That’s what I listed in my comment above. That was the point I was trying to make.

None of that changes that the capitalist system and capitalism have a direct impact on other areas of government.