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I would add for crypto (as for the stock market): I am happy for you and the gain that allows you to be more financially serene (which should not be obtained with the effort of a monetary investment: financial security should be guaranteed to everyone regardless of economic conditions or the ability / luck to invest money);

however the problem with crypto is that they do not invent anything new from a macroeconomic perspective, it is only the stock market that has found a new way to scam people, that is:

• we will call scam any increase in value of anything done to the detriment of another person: the world system is a zero-sum system

• we will call scam something that given its fictitious nature < such as crypto, stocks, government bonds> has no or very little correlation with the real economy but has the purpose of convincing investors to lend money.

• we will call scam anything that is created with the sole purpose of earning money through the investment of money (therefore considering the economy as a sort of meta-economy), a game that holds up as long as people believe in it, differently from industrial capitalism, the IT one makes it even easier to produce fake wealth: create ever new and less innovative consumer goods (apps, devices, operating systems, etc…) closed in a walled garden and thanks to “capitalism as a service”, sell everything via subscription.

• we will call scam any product, physical or not, that requires for its production an amount of resources that is not realistic for the capacities of the planet and is therefore not, in fact, sustainable in the long term

without translation of the web pages, on ios it is still one of the worst web browsers I have ever tried, I only use it to send web pages on desktop

you’re right about that. I absolutely do not want to make a classist speech in which I think it is right to pour on those who cannot afford or do not have access for any reason to “unprocessed” food or products from a circular market. fuck the rich people with SUVs who have breakfast with fresh fruit, yoga and then a walk in the park. I don’t have time for this literally because of them.

However, I come from Italy and the local products from the markets are cheaper and without packaging, produce less traffic and pay farmers more (and directly) as you eliminate the supermarket intermediaries. similar story for used products like clothes (vinted.com has been used here for a while) between private individuals obviously you use packaging to transport things but at least you are not producing something new that is manufactured by a country in an emerging economy with absurd working hours work and starvation wages (while here there is no longer local-national production).

I think that deindustrialization was also possible collaterally to a cultural discourse in which well-being produces an increasingly greater desire to consume (but it doesn’t necessarily have to be this way). and obviously I’m on lemmy so I’m not a techno-luddite so even on the technological side I believe in software and hardware, repairable, open source, community driven etc… but I certainly don’t blame myself or other people for living in this system.

we just hope to fix things little by little, also through discussions like this

people will start hypothesizing every type of plastic substitute imaginable at the cost of moving the entire Sahara desert to the Pacific Ocean and talking about “Western packaging” vs “Chinese packaging”. my loves, we live in a system that leads us to consume continuously and more and more, what do you think about stopping buying and producing what is not needed?