We still talking volcanos or have we moved on to regulating Taco Bell and porn?

I dunno, I disagreed with him and and other “commies” and I’m still around. Maybe it’s something else you are doing.

Well that’s convenient timing with your eyes. Otherwise you’d have to learn to cope with being wrong.

/thumbsup

Was sitting in a particular seat the entirety of the civil rights movement? Is being addressed by your correct pronouns the entirety of the trans movement? Are they both smaller manifestations of much larger issues of bigotry and bias that shitty people can isolate to try and mock and trivialize the hardships that minorities and marginalized people face?

If which seat you get on the bus is the most difficult thing in your life…

Cool.

I’m not trying to moral grand stand on you here. I’m saying that your reactions to your negative experiences are valid. But how far you take those reactions needs to be kept in check. Its not a high minded or aggressive stance to warn against letting the emotions of that trauma cause you to overreact. Try not to read it that way but rather as understanding and cautionary. You seem like you try to be decent and fair. You wouldn’t let one bad person from other demographics/groups/whatever dictate how you treat all them. Don’t let these handful of assholes control how you think of and treat all of trans people. Don’t become the monster they accused you of being.

If you’d use it to say something honest and of substance to address the points I made I probably wouldn’t mind. But you won’t.

Weak performance even for you. You are stuck in the cycle of pretending to be aloof and amused to avoid acknowledging anything of substance. You got upset when bigots were mocked. You were asked if you were a bigot and you deflected. You’re not clever. You should stick to your echo chambers where John’s tweets can’t hurt you.

Again not looking at the shit in the corner. I feel pretty safe in assuming that any non-bigot would have taken that opportunity to make it clear that they were not an aggrieved bigot.

The inherent traits of a species of berries is not comparable to the behavior of an entire demographic. If you treat all trans people as though they are unhinged or looking for the slightest excuse to be offended then that is as much bigoted behavior and stereotyping as treating all Mexicans as lazy or all black people as criminals or all Irish as angry drunks. People are not berries. Their treatment of you isn’t coming from the genetic level.

You may have had some legit crazy fringe case experiences and the shock and hurt that you would feel from that would be very valid but if you turn immediately from that to “if I’m gonna be treated like a bigot then I’ll just be a bigot” then there are some worrisome seeds already planted. If things went as you described them then you had some unfair encounters but those handful of experiences are not close to enough to judge all trans people by. That’s hard to grapple with if there is still that emotional sting from those experiences. I do understand the reaction of “fine I’ll show you just much I can be the thing you wrongly accused me of being”. I’ve been guilty of that in other contexts. But it’s destructive and toxic. It makes the people treating you wrongly feel completely justified. It makes you act like a terrible person that you are not.

You didn’t help. In this conversation, kind like in society, you’ve been a bit of a dead weight. You think that by not addressing or acknowledging the questions I’ve asked and the points I’ve made that you will some how appear clever or aloof. You come across more like a dog that won’t look at the corner it shit in while being scolded.

These thoughts of yours that you mentioned at the beginning, the ones that are reprehensible to some and an echo chamber to others. Are John and the rest decent society the ones that would find your thoughts reprehensible? Are bigots the ones that would find your thoughts to be an echo chamber?

I made observations and points based on fact and straight forward reasoning, that’s not “simply thinking I’m right”. You can’t or won’t address those points so I kinda am the defacto winner. Get some courage. Stop worming around.

Uh huh. Or you are trying to find ways to dance around and deflect from the points I made because they are right and you can’t refute them. John was kinda mean to bigots and that rustled your jimmies. Why are you so emotionally sensitive to the cause of treating bigots with kid gloves?

See, I think it’s because you can’t. I think you lack the ability to do so and I also think I pretty much nailed it.

You aren’t refuting any of the points I made.

Hard to be terrible at it when I’m right though. You got mad that someone was mildly not nice to bigots. You said that using twitter for exactly what twitter was made for was some how out of line. You call mocking and standing up to bigots small minded. You can’t refute those points so to try to deflect with cheap rhetorical tricks or the baseless statement that I’m bad at analyzing your behavior. I get that when you’ve been told that people expect more or better from you that that felt pretty devastating but attempting to turn that around when you are feeling defensive doesn’t work.

If the group is bigots, yes. Again what you are saying and your offense suddenly makes remarkable sense if we assume that you share their bigoted views or are sympathetic to their views.

It’s not “oh just because you disagree” or “oh if it’s a group you don’t approve of” or any other derivation. Don’t strip out the context of what is being disagreed with. You got upset because someone was mildly not nice to bigots. That is what stirred you. That tells a lot about you

Bigots deserve to be shit on. That they think it is a challenge and a burden to just be decent to trans people is worthy of ridicule. You haven’t made a case for it being small minded. You haven’t made a case for it being egotistical. Don’t do that it’s just a disagreement framing. That’s a predictable tactic that is bs.